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		<title>By: Boll</title>
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		<dc:creator>Boll</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 04 Feb 2012 00:35:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>LOL! What a pathetic trollcicle!</description>
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		<title>By: O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 22:16:57 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Wait what did the BEEEEEEP!</description>
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		<title>By: O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 20:10:14 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This comment has been sprayed with Trollicide </description>
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		<title>By: O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 17:07:52 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>My previous comment above was improved and somewhat de-retardedized, though fully de-retardedizing my comment is still beyond the capabilities of modern science. I wish to thank the Almighty Exiled Censor for improving my comment, and I will hereby try to improve myself as a retard, so that I might not drool my thoughts on anyone else. </description>
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		<title>By: O'Brien</title>
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		<dc:creator>O'Brien</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 09 Jan 2012 12:25:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Troll&quot; is a species not an ethnicity. I am a troll. I lick boots for a living. Love me, please!</description>
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		<title>By: Evan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Evan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 06 Jan 2012 22:07:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It&#039;s fairly obvious what the author&#039;s game is from the way that he bemoans the anti-clericalism of the Spanish Republicans, while omitting to mention that the Church had sorely provoked that treatment through it&#039;s vocal and unstinting support of reactionary politics (in league with the military and the large landowners, the Church was the main wellspring of Spanish Fascism).  Orwell was vehemently anti-Catholic; this causes the author pain but is not by itself enough to blacken Orwell&#039;s reputation YES IT IS, YOU WORTHLESS SWAMP-TROLL; therefore the TROLL contributes a number of additional spurious TROLLISMS such as that Orwell was THIS TROLL&#039;S HERO.

This is something of a TROLL&#039;S VERSION OF SADNESS, because for all his literary talents Orwell was an unpleasant person in many ways NOT THAT DOLAN CARED WHAT SORT OF UNPLEASANT PERSON ORWELL WAS, BUT RATHER WHAT A BIGOT ORWELL WAS AND WHAT A TROLL I AM, TROLL VON TROLLSON, and a COMMENT that approached ORWELL&#039;S flaws in a less blatantly dishonest fashion would be interesting. </description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s fairly obvious what the author&#8217;s game is from the way that he bemoans the anti-clericalism of the Spanish Republicans, while omitting to mention that the Church had sorely provoked that treatment through it&#8217;s vocal and unstinting support of reactionary politics (in league with the military and the large landowners, the Church was the main wellspring of Spanish Fascism).  Orwell was vehemently anti-Catholic; this causes the author pain but is not by itself enough to blacken Orwell&#8217;s reputation YES IT IS, YOU WORTHLESS SWAMP-TROLL; therefore the TROLL contributes a number of additional spurious TROLLISMS such as that Orwell was THIS TROLL&#8217;S HERO.</p>
<p>This is something of a TROLL&#8217;S VERSION OF SADNESS, because for all his literary talents Orwell was an unpleasant person in many ways NOT THAT DOLAN CARED WHAT SORT OF UNPLEASANT PERSON ORWELL WAS, BUT RATHER WHAT A BIGOT ORWELL WAS AND WHAT A TROLL I AM, TROLL VON TROLLSON, and a COMMENT that approached ORWELL&#8217;S flaws in a less blatantly dishonest fashion would be interesting.</p>
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		<title>By: marquis de carabidae</title>
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		<dc:creator>marquis de carabidae</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Jan 2012 07:56:11 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Turns out Orwell was a fuckbag about art, too:

&lt;a href=&quot;http://www.george-orwell.org/Benefit_of_Clergy:_Some_Notes_on_Salvador_Dali/0.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Orwell on Dali&lt;/a&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Turns out Orwell was a fuckbag about art, too:</p>
<p><a href="http://www.george-orwell.org/Benefit_of_Clergy:_Some_Notes_on_Salvador_Dali/0.html" rel="nofollow">Orwell on Dali</a></p>
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		<title>By: Restell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Restell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 14:06:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@18

Reading charming misspellings and rambling about random personnages would leave even the most dedicated debater &lt;i&gt;dans le noir.&lt;/i&gt;

Making your incomprehensible response non-sensical.  Do keep at it though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@18</p>
<p>Reading charming misspellings and rambling about random personnages would leave even the most dedicated debater <i>dans le noir.</i></p>
<p>Making your incomprehensible response non-sensical.  Do keep at it though.</p>
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		<title>By: muscle shoals</title>
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		<dc:creator>muscle shoals</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 22 Dec 2011 12:36:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I remember thinking that this was crap six years ago. I haven&#039;t improved with age. Yep, still a dumbfuck. 

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&quot;After reading the mild civic homilies of the Norton, this raw hate entranced me.&quot;

What &quot;raw hate&quot;? There&#039;s no sign of it in the entire paragraph you quoted, as far as I can see.

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&quot;Orwell went to Spain to fight for his most deeply held belief . . . anti-Catholicism.&quot;

Evidence? (That that was the reason for his going, I mean.)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I remember thinking that this was crap six years ago. I haven&#8217;t improved with age. Yep, still a dumbfuck. </p>
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<p>&#8220;After reading the mild civic homilies of the Norton, this raw hate entranced me.&#8221;</p>
<p>What &#8220;raw hate&#8221;? There&#8217;s no sign of it in the entire paragraph you quoted, as far as I can see.</p>
<p>=================================</p>
<p>&#8220;Orwell went to Spain to fight for his most deeply held belief . . . anti-Catholicism.&#8221;</p>
<p>Evidence? (That that was the reason for his going, I mean.)</p>
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		<title>By: DC Resident</title>
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		<dc:creator>DC Resident</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Dec 2011 00:16:37 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Your attack on Orwell is just nonsense.  Orwell was 24 years old when he LEFT Burma.  In other words, the brunt of your argument is based on the political opinions and actions of an Orwell between the ages of 21-24.

If you take the time to read Orwell&#039;s works [with a clear mind, that is], it&#039;s both clear and fascinating to see his progression as a writer and as a human being.  The Orwell of age 24 was not the Orwell of 34, and most certainly not the Orwell of 44.

Orwell actually learned and grew from his experiences, reassessed his former prejudices, and wasn&#039;t afraid to call a spade a spade, even if that meant alienating the British Communists and doctrinaire liberals.

Your essay screams &quot;I haven&#039;t read all (or even most) of Orwell&#039;s works.&quot;  Absolutely screams it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Your attack on Orwell is just nonsense.  Orwell was 24 years old when he LEFT Burma.  In other words, the brunt of your argument is based on the political opinions and actions of an Orwell between the ages of 21-24.</p>
<p>If you take the time to read Orwell&#8217;s works [with a clear mind, that is], it&#8217;s both clear and fascinating to see his progression as a writer and as a human being.  The Orwell of age 24 was not the Orwell of 34, and most certainly not the Orwell of 44.</p>
<p>Orwell actually learned and grew from his experiences, reassessed his former prejudices, and wasn&#8217;t afraid to call a spade a spade, even if that meant alienating the British Communists and doctrinaire liberals.</p>
<p>Your essay screams &#8220;I haven&#8217;t read all (or even most) of Orwell&#8217;s works.&#8221;  Absolutely screams it.</p>
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		<title>By: thomzas</title>
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		<dc:creator>thomzas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 15:08:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolan, painting the Catholic Church as a victim is as ludicrous as making the British Empire a saint.</description>
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		<title>By: John Drinkwater</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Drinkwater</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 04:31:31 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The first part of this essay - on Hitchens - is hilarious and great, but I&#039;m afraid Dolan is just wrong about Orwell here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The first part of this essay &#8211; on Hitchens &#8211; is hilarious and great, but I&#8217;m afraid Dolan is just wrong about Orwell here.</p>
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		<title>By: franc black</title>
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		<dc:creator>franc black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 04:29:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Shite, not this article again ... criticizing one of the few honestly respected writers of modern English (George Orwell) will not just lose you a few friends, it stands to really wipe your slate clean.

Have you read Homage to Catalonia, Road to Wigan Pier, any of the political essays ?


(as for Hitchens, he&#039;s using his well-honed kiss-ass skills on St Peter, trying to delay his eventual immersion into the Lake of Fire ...)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Shite, not this article again &#8230; criticizing one of the few honestly respected writers of modern English (George Orwell) will not just lose you a few friends, it stands to really wipe your slate clean.</p>
<p>Have you read Homage to Catalonia, Road to Wigan Pier, any of the political essays ?</p>
<p>(as for Hitchens, he&#8217;s using his well-honed kiss-ass skills on St Peter, trying to delay his eventual immersion into the Lake of Fire &#8230;)</p>
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		<title>By: G.A.</title>
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		<dc:creator>G.A.</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 20 Dec 2011 01:52:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I have a difficulty believing Dolan is serious in this. To me this seemed more as a thought exercise of sorts, where Dolan tries to argue something he&#039;s not entirely convinced about.

I do not think Orwell was an imperialist. I am one, but I do not think he was. He had remains of class identity (as can be seen in Wigan Pier, or in that subdued but very much /felt/ way in Down and Under), and he indeed did look down upon the Burmese, but I don&#039;t really see a reason to doubt that he hated his role as a policeman or the imperialism of British Empire.

He was a typical conservative Brit, flawed and prejudiced, but I can&#039;t see anywhere any argument made by him for preserving the empire. The entire article lists his prejudices as if they&#039;re automatically constituting Orwell as an imperial apologist, but that&#039;s simply not the case.

Maybe I missed something.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I have a difficulty believing Dolan is serious in this. To me this seemed more as a thought exercise of sorts, where Dolan tries to argue something he&#8217;s not entirely convinced about.</p>
<p>I do not think Orwell was an imperialist. I am one, but I do not think he was. He had remains of class identity (as can be seen in Wigan Pier, or in that subdued but very much /felt/ way in Down and Under), and he indeed did look down upon the Burmese, but I don&#8217;t really see a reason to doubt that he hated his role as a policeman or the imperialism of British Empire.</p>
<p>He was a typical conservative Brit, flawed and prejudiced, but I can&#8217;t see anywhere any argument made by him for preserving the empire. The entire article lists his prejudices as if they&#8217;re automatically constituting Orwell as an imperial apologist, but that&#8217;s simply not the case.</p>
<p>Maybe I missed something.</p>
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		<title>By: hazey</title>
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		<dc:creator>hazey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 19 Dec 2011 22:51:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@16. Restell

Five seconds on teh Google would show you that John Dolan is AKA Gary Brecher. Making your misdirected rant hilarious.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@16. Restell</p>
<p>Five seconds on teh Google would show you that John Dolan is AKA Gary Brecher. Making your misdirected rant hilarious.</p>
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		<title>By: Phoenix Woman</title>
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		<dc:creator>Phoenix Woman</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 16 Oct 2011 06:57:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Heh. Right again as usual.</description>
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		<title>By: Restell</title>
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		<dc:creator>Restell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 10 Sep 2011 23:06:21 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The fact that the author apparently thinks being &quot;racist&quot; is the worst, most abominable trait one can conceive of, rather than the default setting of every human being born on planet earth, is what kills this article in the egg.

Inter-ethnic hatred is the rule, not the exception, and if those Burmese could&#039;ve gotten on their boats and sailed off to Britain to subjubgate them first, they certainly would have. Ditto the Irish:  It&#039;s not a lack of desire, but a lack of ability, that had the English dominating the Irish for so many centuries instead of the other way round.

Finally, all the pearl-clutching at Imperial Britain&#039;s atrocities while blissfully ignoring those of the Roman Catholic Church (in a head-to-head historical match-up, which of the two has caused more human misery would be hard to say) is reminiscent of....wait, I found it:

&quot;Most of them [British books] don’t even mention Ireland, no matter how central it might be to the topic.&quot;

What a pity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The fact that the author apparently thinks being &#8220;racist&#8221; is the worst, most abominable trait one can conceive of, rather than the default setting of every human being born on planet earth, is what kills this article in the egg.</p>
<p>Inter-ethnic hatred is the rule, not the exception, and if those Burmese could&#8217;ve gotten on their boats and sailed off to Britain to subjubgate them first, they certainly would have. Ditto the Irish:  It&#8217;s not a lack of desire, but a lack of ability, that had the English dominating the Irish for so many centuries instead of the other way round.</p>
<p>Finally, all the pearl-clutching at Imperial Britain&#8217;s atrocities while blissfully ignoring those of the Roman Catholic Church (in a head-to-head historical match-up, which of the two has caused more human misery would be hard to say) is reminiscent of&#8230;.wait, I found it:</p>
<p>&#8220;Most of them [British books] don’t even mention Ireland, no matter how central it might be to the topic.&#8221;</p>
<p>What a pity.</p>
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		<title>By: franc black</title>
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		<dc:creator>franc black</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 26 Aug 2011 16:44:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Mr. Dolan,

In the time it took you to polish this piece (of tripe), you could&#039;ve read &quot;Burmese Days&quot; as well.  Basing Orwell&#039;s world view on &quot;Shooting an Elephant&quot; seems rather presumptuous.  He deserves better treatment, and you probably know it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Mr. Dolan,</p>
<p>In the time it took you to polish this piece (of tripe), you could&#8217;ve read &#8220;Burmese Days&#8221; as well.  Basing Orwell&#8217;s world view on &#8220;Shooting an Elephant&#8221; seems rather presumptuous.  He deserves better treatment, and you probably know it.</p>
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		<title>By: Teskulon</title>
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		<dc:creator>Teskulon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Jul 2011 00:44:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The young kids who said &quot;Isn&#039;t that kinda racist?&quot; was the true indoctrinee, silly.  (Wasn&#039;t all that racist, just the usual way any occupier would feel about his sullen charges.) The culmination of college education is simply to make sure that none of the liberal indoctrination takes hold too deeply.  Servile State can&#039;t have standards, after all.  Since they tend to fight fair.  

The fact that all you do is look at the style of arguments, rather than the results of their implementation, puts you more firmly in the dumbass liberal slave-driver camp than Orwell and Hitchens ever were.

Though a more &#039;racist&#039; you might have gotten a more simple reason the British hated the Irish so much: It&#039;s the same reason the Germans hated the Jews, the Japanese hate the Koreans, and the Tutsi hate the Hutu.  The more physically and mentally alike you are, the more you&#039;ll fixate on the small differences and ruthlessly crush each other at the earliest opportunity.  For it ain&#039;t until men realize they&#039;re brothers until they instantly begin to fight.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The young kids who said &#8220;Isn&#8217;t that kinda racist?&#8221; was the true indoctrinee, silly.  (Wasn&#8217;t all that racist, just the usual way any occupier would feel about his sullen charges.) The culmination of college education is simply to make sure that none of the liberal indoctrination takes hold too deeply.  Servile State can&#8217;t have standards, after all.  Since they tend to fight fair.  </p>
<p>The fact that all you do is look at the style of arguments, rather than the results of their implementation, puts you more firmly in the dumbass liberal slave-driver camp than Orwell and Hitchens ever were.</p>
<p>Though a more &#8216;racist&#8217; you might have gotten a more simple reason the British hated the Irish so much: It&#8217;s the same reason the Germans hated the Jews, the Japanese hate the Koreans, and the Tutsi hate the Hutu.  The more physically and mentally alike you are, the more you&#8217;ll fixate on the small differences and ruthlessly crush each other at the earliest opportunity.  For it ain&#8217;t until men realize they&#8217;re brothers until they instantly begin to fight.</p>
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		<title>By: Mike Tango</title>
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		<dc:creator>Mike Tango</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 16 Jul 2011 08:43:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dolan hates Orwell because he couldn´t be a bigoted mole who passes on lists of suspected Communist writers like Orwell did.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dolan hates Orwell because he couldn´t be a bigoted mole who passes on lists of suspected Communist writers like Orwell did.</p>
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