A lot of people on the desert would probably prefer it if the flatlanders stayed in L.A. People who don’t get the desert or the people who choose to live there shouldn’t move there, and they shouldn’t bitch about it if they do.

Personally, I’ve always found it ironic when people from L.A. go on about how dangerous, poorly-developed, or unlivable other cities are.

“Ok, tax the hell out of everybody (and the very rich would still be able to hide income), so now regular people have almost no money and live in tiny apartments with their parents. . . we’re basically Europe.”

Oh, this must be why Americans have less disposable income than Socializt Muslim Scandinavian Cuntries

CTD:

I think that guy was saying he’s not an Objectivist. But my counter was that evangelic/Protestant Christianity is Objectivism, just in a different political discourse.

yours in Christ,
Isamu.”

Bloody hell, I wonder if you understand the term fallacy. Ayn Rand HATED religion. Any paragraph containing Christ, and tagging it to Rand, could cause the horrible hag to rise from the grave and put a cigarette out in your eye.

Before you weed out and say you take in only a few parts of Objectivism…. well, you bloody can’t. Period. The whole package is ideological, and can’t be dissected. This isn’t a bloody distortion of her philosophy. Here’s an exact quote from the pie hole of Ms. Rand:

“If you agree with some tenets of Objectivism, but disagree with others, do not call yourself an Objectivist; give proper authorship for the parts you agree with — and then indulge any flights of fancy you wish, on your own.”

I don’t disagree that we should limit our dependence on oil. I’m all for wind, solar, geothermal (planet’s largest geothermal site located just 75 miles north of San Fransisco)

America will still need oil no matter what. Everything from production of solar panels, fertilizers to delivery of food depends on oil. I just think we should drill what we have here to boost the state economy and in case the oil IMPORTS stop coming in from the other countries.

Also, @37, we should be trying to kill our dependence on oil not grasping for more at expense of our coastlines and national treasures. Simply because there is oil there doesn’t mean we have to use it.

In normal times, the investors would take that loss, but with the perpetual bailout machine that is now ensconced in Washington DC and headed by your unrequited love-object, it turns out the investors are going to be bailed out by the dwindling number of people who still pay taxes. In other words, by the working stiffs like me and (presumably) you.

So that “crusty old hick” you chatted up may not have been so dumb after all. He just had his move from a trailer park to a McMansion subsidized first by investors, then by taxpayers. Not bad for a guy who probably didn’t finish 8th grade.

I think what you and Ames miss in your calls for tax hikes on “rich swine” is that the federal government taxes income, not assets. The really rich–the Kennedys, the Rockefellers, the Soroses–have a lot of assets, they don’t necessarily show any income. Raise the tax rates all you want. Those rich won’t be affected. The only ones you’ll crush are the ones misfortunate enough to have to report income to the feds. In other words, it’ll crush the plain old workers and the small business owners.

If you guys are serious about class warfare, you should figure out how the classes work first. Unless your objective really is to crush the workers and the kulaks? I mean, hey, it worked for Stalin, right?

It would really suck ass to have Russian or Chinese oil co.’s drill right off U.S. coastal waters while the U.S. when in a economic depression would’n't benefit/get nothing form it from that because of dumb ass liberals like you don’t no sense whatsoever. The reserves ARE RIGHT THERE RIGHT OFF U.S. coastal waters but democrats put restrictions on U.S. oil companies and libtards think “it won’t make a difference” ANWAR sized reserves right off the coasts of California (10 billion). 5 billion RIGHT OFF the Florida coasts oh wait Chinese co. are thinking of signing deals with Cuba to get that while the U.S. is getting left in the dark. Anti bussiness libtards…

36. Scoobie Doo

“All of these people should have remained renters and they share 50% of the blame for the mortgage mess”

I agree that they should’ve remained renters but the problem was idiot developers were focused on making oversized suburban homes out of patches of farmland located far away from where people actually work. NOBODY was building apartment homes or small houses that was close to where people work. Gasoline costs for these people was hundreds to thousands of dollars which would of otherwised been spent on other things. The rent was going up, and up and up, every year but there was no new supply of apartment homes/small houses but an pply of oversized suburban homes. These people thought it would make sense to by a house instead of renting on (while rent would go up every year) but had no clue about the the bubble pop that would occur.

There has been an significant increase in residential building in February and most of it consisted of Apartment homes/small houses. Too bad the construction of what was really needed came too lategame and we’re left with an abudance of oversized homes out in the middle of nowhere that nobody wants to buy because its too friggin far away from work and fuel costs will be a b*tch (gas is gonna go up this summer again) and these places have no sense of community whatsoever.\