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		<title>By: Anthony Bsarah</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/exiles-why-i-hate-modern-novels/comment-page-2/#comment-26531</link>
		<dc:creator>Anthony Bsarah</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 23 Dec 2010 17:39:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>TO 47. Don.

HAHAHAHAHAHA!

(A bit late, but whatever)

Seriouly, did you not just read the first lines of the book.  This isn&#039;t the place to be heroic.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>TO 47. Don.</p>
<p>HAHAHAHAHAHA!</p>
<p>(A bit late, but whatever)</p>
<p>Seriouly, did you not just read the first lines of the book.  This isn&#8217;t the place to be heroic.</p>
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		<title>By: basedrop</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/exiles-why-i-hate-modern-novels/comment-page-2/#comment-21357</link>
		<dc:creator>basedrop</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 14 Apr 2010 00:46:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Pilkington et moi.

I once had the pleasure of be seated at the same time as one of my favorite comment authors, Philip Pilkington.  I could only blush with envy on reading sentences that ended with &quot;...hence the charges of pretension.&quot;   My dog remarked &quot;you&#039;re a lot like Pilkington, you both have ears.&quot;  I&#039;m going to put that on the cover of my novel.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Pilkington et moi.</p>
<p>I once had the pleasure of be seated at the same time as one of my favorite comment authors, Philip Pilkington.  I could only blush with envy on reading sentences that ended with &#8220;&#8230;hence the charges of pretension.&#8221;   My dog remarked &#8220;you&#8217;re a lot like Pilkington, you both have ears.&#8221;  I&#8217;m going to put that on the cover of my novel.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank McG</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/exiles-why-i-hate-modern-novels/comment-page-2/#comment-19459</link>
		<dc:creator>Frank McG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 02 Feb 2010 20:43:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>But yeah, this article was kind of pointless. No insight or anything. You could have gotten the same effect by just copying excerpts from the book.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>But yeah, this article was kind of pointless. No insight or anything. You could have gotten the same effect by just copying excerpts from the book.</p>
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		<title>By: Frank McG</title>
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		<dc:creator>Frank McG</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 01 Feb 2010 00:34:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Good rule of thumb for novels: if it&#039;s in an airport store (or at least you can imagine it is), it&#039;s garbage.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Good rule of thumb for novels: if it&#8217;s in an airport store (or at least you can imagine it is), it&#8217;s garbage.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 31 Jan 2010 21:02:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@Don: This.  Also, allow me to elaborate.  The eXiled is a gonzo rag (an utterly obsolete form of journalism by this point). Edgy is the only reason it still does exist. And here&#039;s a piece of advice: &#039;edgy&#039; is all about subtlety.  It&#039;s about cutting unnecessary corners (&quot;Why pretend that journalism isn&#039;t subjective, when it is?&quot;).  Reviewing a book no matter how awful without having read it, unfortunately, is the wrong kind of cutting corners, the wrong kind of &#039;edgy,&#039; -- the kind of &#039;edgy&#039; Fox News does. Ms. Jones has done the author, herself, her readers and the eXiled a disservice. She is, as we say in the industry, a douche.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@Don: This.  Also, allow me to elaborate.  The eXiled is a gonzo rag (an utterly obsolete form of journalism by this point). Edgy is the only reason it still does exist. And here&#8217;s a piece of advice: &#8216;edgy&#8217; is all about subtlety.  It&#8217;s about cutting unnecessary corners (&#8220;Why pretend that journalism isn&#8217;t subjective, when it is?&#8221;).  Reviewing a book no matter how awful without having read it, unfortunately, is the wrong kind of cutting corners, the wrong kind of &#8216;edgy,&#8217; &#8212; the kind of &#8216;edgy&#8217; Fox News does. Ms. Jones has done the author, herself, her readers and the eXiled a disservice. She is, as we say in the industry, a douche.</p>
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		<title>By: Necronomic Justice</title>
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		<dc:creator>Necronomic Justice</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 30 Jan 2010 20:55:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Apparently he not only nicked the eXile logo, but also an SDS logo.

http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/sds_today95.jpg</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Apparently he not only nicked the eXile logo, but also an SDS logo.</p>
<p><a href="http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/sds_today95.jpg" rel="nofollow">http://mrzine.monthlyreview.org/2010/sds_today95.jpg</a></p>
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		<title>By: Don</title>
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		<dc:creator>Don</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 29 Jan 2010 11:00:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Let me get this straight. You read the last couple paragraphs, then the first couple paragraphs, then a few random paragraphs, and now you feel qualified to pronounce sentence on the book, the author, and the entire field of “literature.”

What you’re trying to pass off here as a critique tells us nothing about this work, but everything we need to know about you. 

You wasted your time writing this piece. Further, you are wasting your readers’ time. If you have nothing more to offer the world than this, we’d all be better off if you just kept it to yourself.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Let me get this straight. You read the last couple paragraphs, then the first couple paragraphs, then a few random paragraphs, and now you feel qualified to pronounce sentence on the book, the author, and the entire field of “literature.”</p>
<p>What you’re trying to pass off here as a critique tells us nothing about this work, but everything we need to know about you. </p>
<p>You wasted your time writing this piece. Further, you are wasting your readers’ time. If you have nothing more to offer the world than this, we’d all be better off if you just kept it to yourself.</p>
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		<title>By: j</title>
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		<dc:creator>j</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 28 Jan 2010 00:47:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>waste of time both in you writing and me reading about this waste of time novel.

thanks.
(angrily beats off)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>waste of time both in you writing and me reading about this waste of time novel.</p>
<p>thanks.<br />
(angrily beats off)</p>
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		<title>By: jbourbon</title>
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		<dc:creator>jbourbon</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 27 Jan 2010 05:17:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>this one is probably going to end up a real disaster

http://safe.plushdx.us</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>this one is probably going to end up a real disaster</p>
<p><a href="http://safe.plushdx.us" rel="nofollow">http://safe.plushdx.us</a></p>
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		<title>By: Starvid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Starvid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 14:58:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hey Eileen, you should have sent the book to me, as I actually live in Uppsala, Sweden, and just for that reason the book is likely 100 times as interesting to me as it it to any other person you know. Damn, far too many commas in that sentence.

And if you wondered, you do need a permit for to hold a demonstration. Not to hand out flyers though.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hey Eileen, you should have sent the book to me, as I actually live in Uppsala, Sweden, and just for that reason the book is likely 100 times as interesting to me as it it to any other person you know. Damn, far too many commas in that sentence.</p>
<p>And if you wondered, you do need a permit for to hold a demonstration. Not to hand out flyers though.</p>
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		<title>By: Christo</title>
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		<dc:creator>Christo</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 11:47:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>What I&#039;ve read of Pynchon is great. Wodehouse and all those SF writers you guys mention are good too.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>What I&#8217;ve read of Pynchon is great. Wodehouse and all those SF writers you guys mention are good too.</p>
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		<title>By: General Foods</title>
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		<dc:creator>General Foods</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 08:20:53 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>A couple of eXile-themed novels of eXcellent quality:

Dr. Faustus by Thomas Mann:
A nazi composer sells his soul to Lucifer in exchange for future greatness. He bangs this syphilitic prostitute to seal the deal.

Dr. Adder by PKD protege K.W. Jeter:
A megalomaniac surgeon cuts pieces off of LA prostitutes to make them more attractive to perverted military bigwigs. 

Dr. Faustus has long philosophical digressions as it is narrated by this windbag ex-schoolteacher. Dr. Adder has pictures.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>A couple of eXile-themed novels of eXcellent quality:</p>
<p>Dr. Faustus by Thomas Mann:<br />
A nazi composer sells his soul to Lucifer in exchange for future greatness. He bangs this syphilitic prostitute to seal the deal.</p>
<p>Dr. Adder by PKD protege K.W. Jeter:<br />
A megalomaniac surgeon cuts pieces off of LA prostitutes to make them more attractive to perverted military bigwigs. </p>
<p>Dr. Faustus has long philosophical digressions as it is narrated by this windbag ex-schoolteacher. Dr. Adder has pictures.</p>
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		<title>By: Alex_C</title>
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		<dc:creator>Alex_C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 03:28:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Putting the litter in literature indeed. 

No wonder two of my all-time favorite &quot;great books&quot; are The Curve Of Binding Energy and Origins Of Radar.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Putting the litter in literature indeed. </p>
<p>No wonder two of my all-time favorite &#8220;great books&#8221; are The Curve Of Binding Energy and Origins Of Radar.</p>
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		<title>By: Sloopian</title>
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		<dc:creator>Sloopian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 02:29:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>John Dolan had a great way of tearing a book apart. He&#039;d mock the writing for a few paragraphs, then dovetail into a pages-long explanation of why it&#039;s no good with a relevant little history lesson.

What&#039;s the point of this review? Anyone can shit on someone else&#039;s creation, as you&#039;ve done here. Okay, the novel sucks, as do many others. So... point us in a different direction, or at least read the damn thing cover the cover and provide some insight, beyond namedropping Wodehouse and generically towing the eXile editorial line.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>John Dolan had a great way of tearing a book apart. He&#8217;d mock the writing for a few paragraphs, then dovetail into a pages-long explanation of why it&#8217;s no good with a relevant little history lesson.</p>
<p>What&#8217;s the point of this review? Anyone can shit on someone else&#8217;s creation, as you&#8217;ve done here. Okay, the novel sucks, as do many others. So&#8230; point us in a different direction, or at least read the damn thing cover the cover and provide some insight, beyond namedropping Wodehouse and generically towing the eXile editorial line.</p>
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		<title>By: rick</title>
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		<dc:creator>rick</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 26 Jan 2010 01:26:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Contemporary literary novels are pretty bad...I can&#039;t quite think of a single good one (90s? 00s? &quot;The Possibility of an Island,&quot; maybe). I liked &quot;House of Leaves,&quot; for weird brilliance. I actually think very highly of Ames&#039; very novelistic bits in the eXile book, they&#039;re better than the Kerouac ilk. There&#039;s an animal porn niche aspect to those books, but they speak to me, at least, and I simultaneously like many of the &quot;classics.&quot; So maybe they&#039;re classics.

Contemporary fiction might as well be balkanized, lifeless indie-rock, with 4 minute songs at mid-tempo and occasional crooning. No money in them, either. Not sure why publishers published the shit out of them in the 90s when nothing sold, and nothing was good, either. And those blurbs! You wouldn&#039;t know if something WAS ACTUALLY GOOD OR NOT.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Contemporary literary novels are pretty bad&#8230;I can&#8217;t quite think of a single good one (90s? 00s? &#8220;The Possibility of an Island,&#8221; maybe). I liked &#8220;House of Leaves,&#8221; for weird brilliance. I actually think very highly of Ames&#8217; very novelistic bits in the eXile book, they&#8217;re better than the Kerouac ilk. There&#8217;s an animal porn niche aspect to those books, but they speak to me, at least, and I simultaneously like many of the &#8220;classics.&#8221; So maybe they&#8217;re classics.</p>
<p>Contemporary fiction might as well be balkanized, lifeless indie-rock, with 4 minute songs at mid-tempo and occasional crooning. No money in them, either. Not sure why publishers published the shit out of them in the 90s when nothing sold, and nothing was good, either. And those blurbs! You wouldn&#8217;t know if something WAS ACTUALLY GOOD OR NOT.</p>
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		<title>By: Korman643</title>
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		<dc:creator>Korman643</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 21:23:39 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>34 @Tam

I see your point, but I still love &quot;Zap Gun&quot;. PKD work is broadly divided in two type of stuff: the all time, mind crushing masterpieces that leave you dizzy and change forever your life (Ubik, Maze of Death, Our Friends from Frolix 8, Clans of Alphane Moon, Man In High Castle, Do The Androids, Time Out of Joint, Flow My tears, Valis etc etc etc - and of course the best of the lot, 3 Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch) and the stuff that maybe is not mind blowing, but still great because Dick had this great talent of putting here and there great scenes or great concepts that make reading them worth the effort. Say, Galactic Pot Healer,  Dr. Bloodmoney, GamePlayer of Titan, Simulacra, Trasmigration of Timothy Archer, Counter Clock World, Comic Puppets, etc etc etc and, of course Zap Gun. EVERYONE of them has a least a single outstanding idea or scene that make it stick with you forever. Keep in mind that he was writing for Ace Books or any of those publisher who were exploiting him, taking speed to write all day and all night and pay the bills and the alimonies to ex wives, and STILL churching up stuff that was better than 99% of what you read today. if that&#039;s not talent...

It&#039;s interesting to note that the same is true for PKD short stories (that a lot of people ignores).  I mean, take &quot;The Days of Perky Pat&quot; - it&#039;s something recycled out of Palmer Eldritch  and it STILL a new angle on the same material, still fresh and awesome. And of course the wholly original short stories are even better. &quot;Upon The Dull Earth&quot;, &quot;Retreat Syndrome&quot;, &quot;A Little Something for Us Temponauts&quot;... I could go on forever.

Stapledon: my favourite is &quot;Star Maker&quot;, it&#039;s well written, and I understand why some people is crazy about his books, but for some reason I&#039;ve never been a big fan of him. But that&#039;s just me, I suppose.

My list - I&#039;ve forgot to add three names: Lovecraft, Fritz Leiber (because of Big Time, A Spectre is Haunting Texas, and expecially Our Lady Of Darkness - I mean, does anyone knows it?) and William Hope Hodgson  (because of House on The Borderland and of course The Nightland - speaking of whom, Greg Bear has written a great novella somehow based on it - &quot;The Way of All Ghosts&quot;, worth finding on Internet).

As I said before - that&#039;s the stuff people will remember 1000 years from now...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>34 @Tam</p>
<p>I see your point, but I still love &#8220;Zap Gun&#8221;. PKD work is broadly divided in two type of stuff: the all time, mind crushing masterpieces that leave you dizzy and change forever your life (Ubik, Maze of Death, Our Friends from Frolix 8, Clans of Alphane Moon, Man In High Castle, Do The Androids, Time Out of Joint, Flow My tears, Valis etc etc etc &#8211; and of course the best of the lot, 3 Stigmata of Palmer Eldritch) and the stuff that maybe is not mind blowing, but still great because Dick had this great talent of putting here and there great scenes or great concepts that make reading them worth the effort. Say, Galactic Pot Healer,  Dr. Bloodmoney, GamePlayer of Titan, Simulacra, Trasmigration of Timothy Archer, Counter Clock World, Comic Puppets, etc etc etc and, of course Zap Gun. EVERYONE of them has a least a single outstanding idea or scene that make it stick with you forever. Keep in mind that he was writing for Ace Books or any of those publisher who were exploiting him, taking speed to write all day and all night and pay the bills and the alimonies to ex wives, and STILL churching up stuff that was better than 99% of what you read today. if that&#8217;s not talent&#8230;</p>
<p>It&#8217;s interesting to note that the same is true for PKD short stories (that a lot of people ignores).  I mean, take &#8220;The Days of Perky Pat&#8221; &#8211; it&#8217;s something recycled out of Palmer Eldritch  and it STILL a new angle on the same material, still fresh and awesome. And of course the wholly original short stories are even better. &#8220;Upon The Dull Earth&#8221;, &#8220;Retreat Syndrome&#8221;, &#8220;A Little Something for Us Temponauts&#8221;&#8230; I could go on forever.</p>
<p>Stapledon: my favourite is &#8220;Star Maker&#8221;, it&#8217;s well written, and I understand why some people is crazy about his books, but for some reason I&#8217;ve never been a big fan of him. But that&#8217;s just me, I suppose.</p>
<p>My list &#8211; I&#8217;ve forgot to add three names: Lovecraft, Fritz Leiber (because of Big Time, A Spectre is Haunting Texas, and expecially Our Lady Of Darkness &#8211; I mean, does anyone knows it?) and William Hope Hodgson  (because of House on The Borderland and of course The Nightland &#8211; speaking of whom, Greg Bear has written a great novella somehow based on it &#8211; &#8220;The Way of All Ghosts&#8221;, worth finding on Internet).</p>
<p>As I said before &#8211; that&#8217;s the stuff people will remember 1000 years from now&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: tim</title>
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		<dc:creator>tim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 19:03:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;The author of this book is guilty of the highest of crimes, the pretension of being interesting.&quot;
Why is that the highest of crimes? If it&#039;s so dull, don&#039;t read it. 
The highest of crimes is cruelty.
That&#039;s the contradiction of this site: it is one of the few places you can get a hard-hitting, see through the bullshit line on events, and at the same time there&#039;s reveling in some joe-blow Russians dying in a housefire. Why?
I am not after edification, but I also don&#039;t get meanness.
--
About how there is a modern culture industry- it seems like implicit in this there&#039;s an idea that before it was all independent. You don&#039;t really think that, do you?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;The author of this book is guilty of the highest of crimes, the pretension of being interesting.&#8221;<br />
Why is that the highest of crimes? If it&#8217;s so dull, don&#8217;t read it.<br />
The highest of crimes is cruelty.<br />
That&#8217;s the contradiction of this site: it is one of the few places you can get a hard-hitting, see through the bullshit line on events, and at the same time there&#8217;s reveling in some joe-blow Russians dying in a housefire. Why?<br />
I am not after edification, but I also don&#8217;t get meanness.<br />
&#8211;<br />
About how there is a modern culture industry- it seems like implicit in this there&#8217;s an idea that before it was all independent. You don&#8217;t really think that, do you?</p>
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		<title>By: dogbane</title>
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		<dc:creator>dogbane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 15:10:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Re: “characters who converse as if they’re in a play, themselves.” (Why add “comma themselves”? It’s maddening.)

It refers back to the &quot;backdrop...of Strindberg&quot;; not only does the novel rip off...er...pay homage to Strindberg, the author makes the characters talk as if they are in a play as well, although the exerpted dialogue looks more like bad Sam Shepard dialogue than Strindberg.</description>
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<p>It refers back to the &#8220;backdrop&#8230;of Strindberg&#8221;; not only does the novel rip off&#8230;er&#8230;pay homage to Strindberg, the author makes the characters talk as if they are in a play as well, although the exerpted dialogue looks more like bad Sam Shepard dialogue than Strindberg.</p>
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		<title>By: Philip Pilkington</title>
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		<dc:creator>Philip Pilkington</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 14:08:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@tam

The sociologists call it the &quot;Culture Industry&quot;. The idea is that the industry produces material for tired office workers, lawyers and minor public officials. The material has to be familiar because these people have no time/energy to put into working over new/unfamiliar material (a similar criticism could be laid against some of the &quot;literary theory&quot; coming out of this site... I wonder why...).

The Culture Industry theory actually works surprisingly well in day-to-day reality. I&#039;ve noted that doctors who have done their time in the emergency room and have moved into private practice often have an interest in real literature. I think the reason is that their brains are working properly because they generally attend various conferences etc. Then you talk to the busy middle-classer and he tells you how he&#039;s heading to Spain that summer and he intends to tackle Joyce or Proust - of course this never happens because the poor bastards&#039; brains are fried from office-speak, so they reach for whatever crime trash they secretly slipped into their bags before they left.</description>
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<p>The sociologists call it the &#8220;Culture Industry&#8221;. The idea is that the industry produces material for tired office workers, lawyers and minor public officials. The material has to be familiar because these people have no time/energy to put into working over new/unfamiliar material (a similar criticism could be laid against some of the &#8220;literary theory&#8221; coming out of this site&#8230; I wonder why&#8230;).</p>
<p>The Culture Industry theory actually works surprisingly well in day-to-day reality. I&#8217;ve noted that doctors who have done their time in the emergency room and have moved into private practice often have an interest in real literature. I think the reason is that their brains are working properly because they generally attend various conferences etc. Then you talk to the busy middle-classer and he tells you how he&#8217;s heading to Spain that summer and he intends to tackle Joyce or Proust &#8211; of course this never happens because the poor bastards&#8217; brains are fried from office-speak, so they reach for whatever crime trash they secretly slipped into their bags before they left.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
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		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 25 Jan 2010 13:11:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@23 Korman643

&#039;The problem with “modern” novels (and I suspect that was Dolan/Eileen point) is that they’re not only tedious and badly written – they’re totally irrilevant. I mean, try reading PK Dick “The Penultimate Truth” – originally written in 1964.&#039;

Hmmm.  PKD was capable of writing tedious and badly written prose with the worst of them.  Have you read &#039;The Zap Gun&#039; for example?  But as you say, the relevance makes even books like that well worth a read. 

That&#039;s a seriously good list of authors you have there.  If you like them, I&#039;d recommend checking out my current favorite, Olaf Stapleton, a mostly forgotten author from the 1930s who wrote what have to be the most (literally) awesome novels ever.  Check out &#039;Last and First Man&#039;...</description>
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<p>&#8216;The problem with “modern” novels (and I suspect that was Dolan/Eileen point) is that they’re not only tedious and badly written – they’re totally irrilevant. I mean, try reading PK Dick “The Penultimate Truth” – originally written in 1964.&#8217;</p>
<p>Hmmm.  PKD was capable of writing tedious and badly written prose with the worst of them.  Have you read &#8216;The Zap Gun&#8217; for example?  But as you say, the relevance makes even books like that well worth a read. </p>
<p>That&#8217;s a seriously good list of authors you have there.  If you like them, I&#8217;d recommend checking out my current favorite, Olaf Stapleton, a mostly forgotten author from the 1930s who wrote what have to be the most (literally) awesome novels ever.  Check out &#8216;Last and First Man&#8217;&#8230;</p>
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