look at this:

http://winterpatriot.blogspot.com/2008/11/double-cover-1-nothing-can-ever-be-same.html

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/asia/india/3539171/Mumbai-attacks-Jews-tortured-before-executed-during-hostage-crisis.html

from “The Daily Telegraph” for December 2, it begins:

“Mumbai attacks: Jews tortured before being executed during hostage crisis

Israeli hostages killed by Islamic terrorists during the attacks on Mumbai (formerly Bombay) were tortured by their captors before they were bound together and killed….”

Anyone who’s seen “Suicide Killers” — http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0830968/ — the documentary of interviews with failed corset bombers in Israeli prisons — will recall these similarly baby-faced killers explaining, out of straight faces and true-believer sanpaku eyes, how they just knew they needed to die as martyrs in order to have good sex — without a scintilla of doubt apparent!

Such convictions, and how well deluded faithful serve the ends of some Cheney-league cynics on the jihadi side, can’t help but resonate for history fans with Hassan i Sabbah’s 11th Century army of Hashashshim — http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hassan-i_Sabbah — who were indoctrinated in a rhetorically fluid Shia fundamentalism spinnable to justify any action its practitioners fancied, that rewarded successful surviving assassins with a majoun-fueled trip to Hassan’s movie-set Garden of Paradise in his stronghold of Alamout, where similarly-indoctrinated houris gave God’s Soldiers their best approximation of the 600-year orgasm some scripture hints at, then sent them off to slit more Sunni gizzards and earn thereby more stoned unearthly cooze.

What fascinates me most here is how all this drugging must’ve got knotted around fundy doctrine, and what the subjective experience of these Fedayeen must have been as they were basic-trained to search and destroy on roid-rage, blow and acid. I’m guessing they each met the Prophet at least once. Imagine the potential blockbuster: “The Teachings of Sheikh Owsley: a Jihadi Way of Knowledge”

Now that’s serious Gnosticism!

Oh yeah, on topic: who would benefit the most from the India-Pakistan War? That’s who’s most likely responsible, just my two cents.

It would indeed be (very) stupid to react as America did. Though America seems to have intended to use such an attack that oh so conveniently ‘happened’ as a pretext for goals of empire.

The sensible answer – Don’t react at all. Or not with the heart. At least not with random violence. React with the head.

The deaths of two hundred in a country of a billion people – one thousand million – is a rounding error.

Were the attacks disgusting? An outrage? Something that cannot be ignored? Certainly. But India certainly has the ability to root out the cancer with microsurgery rather than by lopping of limbs. In particular its own Muslim limbs.

Hopefully the saner elements in India will have learned from the U.S. example of the last eight years and they will not allow their bonkers right wing elements to co-opt the event for their own fanatic aims, as was done in the U.S. We hope.

Lo and behold now the truth is coming out in the media that this entire operation was planned by Indian muslims.

Monsieur Brecher (or is it Comte du Brech?) almost certainly does not read the comments, if he does, he will not give a fuck about the BS any one of us pumps out in said comments, so sit down, shut the fuck up and stop taking it so fucking seriously.

“I agree that the comments should be disabled.”

Why do you post any then?
Moron(s)…

You are totally crazy, talking about world police and international CIA conspiracies. You sounded like the Pakistani ‘analyst’ on TV who was ranting that this whole thing was the work of Indian intelligence along with Zionists and Hindu radicals. The analyst and news commentators were not some illiterates or madarassa educated villagers, but English speaking city slickers in suits. If this is the junk that educated urban Pakistan watches and believes, then the world has a real problem dealing with the Paki cesspool.

So what was a Karachi-wallah like me doing visiting Peshawar this summer?

I stopped reading after that sentence.

We agree that Indian Muslims did this in Bombay, but I have to ask:

Lulldapull have you ever been to Pakistan?

Have you ever read a news article through, instead of scanning its headlines?

Go pick up a book. Learn something then come back.

Punjabi’s don’t go to the NWFP!

These days if Pukhtoons in the frontier see an Indian or punjabi looking guy walking around in the Frontier, he dies pretty quick.

Now if ‘short/ dark’ Pakistani Punjabi’s are trained by ISI in that small 100 people tehsil of an even smaller village on the outskirts of Multan……Boy! Don’t you think the Punjabi dominated ISI are asking for trouble, taking on India in these tough times, with the U.S. holding a gun to their head?

So the theory that ISI trained short/ dark/ Punjabi duggay (because Pukhtoons would kill them on sight in the present political/ military circumstances) at some remote site called ‘Faridkot’ in Pakistan……fully aware that if one is caught he’d spill the beans….is very difficult to believe, and Pakistan will be again in the spot light over this spectacular terrorist attack.

ISI is no longer in that 80′s business of training and supplying Mirpuri/ Punjabi duggay to go attack India anymore.

The U.S. has outlawed that after 9-11-2001…..and the ISI obeys like a loyal dog.

Here’s Arundhati Roy on the attacks, albeit obliquely, whose opinion I asked for though I’m not happy with what she has to say — but here it is anyway…