Anyway , me and many of my friends have a hobby of growing and smoking pot , the good pot the natural. We all have good jobs and some got families of their own. I am not writing to defend pot , it can defend it self since and many things have been written.

I want to say though that heroin meth and all those shit are drugs just like the ones you get from the hospital, some got bad things coming with them , who made them anyway? for what reason?
People taking drugs are just victims nothing more , they can get it over with help and support , or by finding another hobby …

MARIJHUANA is not a drug . If you are a drug addict then you got a reason for that , analyse the reasons , talk to friends and family , they will guide you and you will find the answer . What my father told me when i was 16 and got me high on lsd , : son if you don’t like reality change it , if you cant change it , i will help you , make reality fun so you don’t have to take substitutes of happiness .I don’t know if it was lcd or his words but since then me and people with same logic try to make something good . That’s all from a silly euro fag , (hahahahahahaha).

Well, alcohol IS a drug and CAN be extremely adicting and unlike the text states, most truly alcoholic individuals are FAR from being functional (and many of those who are functional professionaly, have great tedencies of child abuse and neglect).

BUT it misses the very basci perception that addiction runs differently for every sort of chemical and different kinds of genetical profile. The odds of becoming addicted to heroin for example, are WAY BIGGER than becoming addicted to alcohol or even coke.

But the rule is, taking any sort of psychoactive drug is almost a genetic russian rulette, untill you try, you’ll never know wether you might have an inherent chance of getting extremely addicted. (not counting behavioral profiles that influence a lot too).

So, how could know? If alcohol itself is already a enourmous issue on car accidents, child abuse, neglet and so on… what would society have to do deal with other drugs? You can test and punish a drunk driver through a simple test, but how could you prevent accidents from other drugs that are harder to test? How could you avoid accidents from drugs that deposit on fat and cause flashbacks days, or even months, after consuming (like LSD)?

A world where drugs are cheap and easy to find, already exists in many producing countries… and honestly, where there are abundant cheap drugs, you’ll find some of the worst human conditions in this planet.

As a native from a drug-producing country, I must say:

Why the FUCK don’t you “developed world” sissies spoiled tards stop whinning, shape up, grow up, throw away your RIDICULOUS “emmotional wheelchairs” fill your pathetic empty and shallow lives with something (go play in the sun, make some therapy, get relationship with real human beings instead of white dust) and please FUCKING STOP THROWING YOUR CASH TO THE DRUG INDUSTRY… which is no better and it will NEVER BE, than any other bloodsucking manipulative brain-washing industry in this world.

nuff said…

Pakistan is a country where drugs are de facto free, and very cheap. Does that solve the problems? The backstreets of Islamabad are full of heroin-addicted Pakis, even tie-and-suit husbands who have abandoned their families and married a syringe instead. When they die they are just thrown in the nearest river, where their bloated corpses decorate a tourist’s Islamabad experience. If the tourist hasn’t been killed for his money first.

No, giving people legal poison doesn’t solve anything. It is still poison. The problem with middle-class pro-druggers is that they imagine a smart liberal middle-class couple doing a little reefer together before work. They have no idea what drug use looks like in the inner city.

#20: I don’t think hope and melancholy are matters of truth. “2 and 2 is 4″ and “2 and 2 is 5″ are opposing statements of fact, and only one can ever be true. But “the world has hope” and “the world has no hope” are just ways of saying “I feel hopeful” and “I feel hopeless.” Those can both be true at different times, and you can even choose which one to make true. If you have the self control, that is, which most of us don’t, most of the time.

‘WE’ made an excellent point in that philosophically a person will do what their belief in reality persuades them to do.
Their reality about life, about others and especially about them directs one’s decision to finally give up and become addicted.
I found out I would rather sacrifice and earn others respect than become ‘rich’ from others pity. No judgement call, I don’t know others circumstances, just mine now, and with the US economy going to hell in a handbasket no one knows what stuff could be around the corner.
I pray there’s not a monster under my bed.

The real issue is philosophical, when I drink on a regular basis for extended periods of time I am completely functional, but there is an emotional ceiling of melancholy which I rarely breach, and if I stop drinking for around a month I start to feel that techicolor superimposition of hope again, I’m not sure which is closer to the truth, it’s all a balance of chemicals after all, there’s no instruction manuel, I don’t know the default settings.

It’s all philosophy I guess, if you live and believe your live has meaning then you’ll be less inclined to self-medicate and obfuscate whatever it is that leads you to that tear choked sense of nihilism in the first place. Once again, I don’t know the manufacturer’s settings, let alone who or what the manufacturer is, the decision to delve in or escape is completely based on a premise in which none of us has the answer, whether we’re escaping reality for an illusion, illusion for reality, or simply upgrading our illusion to something or palitable.

I’d like to think there is some hope in this, even the exile with all of it’s depravity showed it’s own puritanical tones in regards to western hyprocisy. I for example see prostitution as the highest form of capitalism (after the Real World and reality television), turning another human being into a product to be consumed, often outsourcing the violence to a pimp like fat US patriots do with Blackwater, feeling sick by all of the heartless ex-pats who are still feeding off of the dish of cheap provincial girls whose economic desperation and poor education were manufactured by the IMF’s breaking of this country in the 90′s. And while this paper turns the degradation of those women into artful pornography, they show incredible contempt for ignorance, neo-liberalism and journalistic hacks who merely tow party lines to the benefit of western power brokers. The question being why, they must care, there is some point where most people feel outraged about something, we cry for the degredation of one while benefiting from the degredation of the other. Or maybe outrage just belies hope, maybe it’s just another form of hatred made sweeter by self-righteousness. I just figure the reason between every pill drink and needle comes down to this, do I really care about anything? The answer to that question is the answer to what we do about the rest of it.

There are other alternatives in live too. Maybe your father has only to choose between those two. Than he is really a poor soul. I agree with you, some people don’t manage to make more of their life. Probably because nobody took the time to teach them, how to do it the other way.

I agree with you, that if you have to choose between televison and hookers, then go for the hookers I am not so sure for drugs though .. but maybe you are right.

But, this is only for desperate people, who didn’t manage to arange their life. It isn’t something that you should propose to anyone. I hope you will not end up like your father, with such poor choices.

As it is, my father is dying and I’d much rather he do speed and visit hookers than waste another goddamned hour in front of the television. What a waste of life.

It makes people afraid.

and the worst part is that pot and mushrooms can be used as medicine and the law arrests terminally ill old ladies for smoking pot.

reason for this… do a search for platzspitz, letten or just needle park.

btw: legalisation of cannabis stood no chance on that very same ballot weekend.

There’s books out there about the subject, Terence McKennas “Food of the Gods” deals with it and quotes an even more in depth book which I can’t remember of find “Food of the Gods” right now to quote but it has been researched that the CIA has or has had deals with drugs lords and maybe even has had them under their thumb. Illegal drugs cost way more, so you can make money off of them, so that’s another bastard that has to be dealt with before legalization or maybe even decriminilzation can occur

Drugs have made criminals of most of us. It is tacitly excepted that we will lie by obfiscation when speaking to anyone in a legal context about activity in our lives that infringed these absurd laws. Steal a car, shop lift even speeding: these are all crimes which can be generally accepted to be risky and unhelpful to other people. Everyone accepts that. But drugs? No one really thinks they are on the same level so your lie about past usage is sort of a politeness, a point of good behavior. Do a little B&Eing and people will avoid you. You’re a dick really. Deal pot? No one really cares. Yet you can go to jail for drugs as soon as anything else.