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	<title>Comments on: Why Drug Addiction Isn&#8217;t That Bad</title>
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		<title>By: piter</title>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:27:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all you people , i start saying first to forgive my poor english , but i am from Greece and i live there . Second , euro fags???  lol .

Anyway , me and many of my friends have a hobby of growing and smoking pot , the good pot the natural. We all have good jobs and some got families of their own. I am not writing to defend pot , it can defend it self since and many things have been written. 

I want to say though that heroin meth and all those shit are drugs just like the ones you get from the hospital, some got bad things coming with them , who made them anyway? for what reason? 
People taking drugs are just victims nothing more , they can get it over with help and support , or by finding another hobby ... 

MARIJHUANA  is not a drug .  If you are a drug addict then you got a reason for that , analyse the reasons , talk to friends and family , they will guide you and you will find the answer . What my father told me when i was 16 and got me high on lsd , : son if you don't like reality change it , if you cant change it , i will help you , make reality fun so you don't have to take substitutes of happiness .I don't know if it was lcd or his words but since then me and people with same logic try to make something good . That's all from a silly euro fag , (hahahahahahaha).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all you people , i start saying first to forgive my poor english , but i am from Greece and i live there . Second , euro fags???  lol .</p>
<p>Anyway , me and many of my friends have a hobby of growing and smoking pot , the good pot the natural. We all have good jobs and some got families of their own. I am not writing to defend pot , it can defend it self since and many things have been written. </p>
<p>I want to say though that heroin meth and all those shit are drugs just like the ones you get from the hospital, some got bad things coming with them , who made them anyway? for what reason?<br />
People taking drugs are just victims nothing more , they can get it over with help and support , or by finding another hobby &#8230; </p>
<p>MARIJHUANA  is not a drug .  If you are a drug addict then you got a reason for that , analyse the reasons , talk to friends and family , they will guide you and you will find the answer . What my father told me when i was 16 and got me high on lsd , : son if you don&#8217;t like reality change it , if you cant change it , i will help you , make reality fun so you don&#8217;t have to take substitutes of happiness .I don&#8217;t know if it was lcd or his words but since then me and people with same logic try to make something good . That&#8217;s all from a silly euro fag , (hahahahahahaha).</p>
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		<title>By: piter</title>
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		<dc:creator>piter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 05 Aug 2009 17:09:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hello all you people , i start saying first to forgive my poor english , but i am from Greece and i live there . Second ,</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hello all you people , i start saying first to forgive my poor english , but i am from Greece and i live there . Second ,</p>
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		<title>By: Brando</title>
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		<dc:creator>Brando</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 27 Jan 2009 13:54:49 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>It's clear (even to those euro fags) that there's NO POINT "to life." That shit's silly. If someone wants to fuck, get high, and hang out with their friends and family, they ought to be able to do that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>It&#8217;s clear (even to those euro fags) that there&#8217;s NO POINT &#8220;to life.&#8221; That shit&#8217;s silly. If someone wants to fuck, get high, and hang out with their friends and family, they ought to be able to do that.</p>
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		<title>By: L. Macarius</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/national-geographics-anti-drug-propaganda-special/comment-page-1/#comment-2777</link>
		<dc:creator>L. Macarius</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 15 Jan 2009 16:25:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>This report is biased beyond logic. It completely excludes statistics, odds and rudimentary knowledge of how neurochemistry works. (not to mention it is a f###ing selfish standpoint, typical of a consumer-country, that is totally oblivious to reality in producer-countries).

Well, alcohol IS a drug and CAN be extremely adicting and unlike the text states, most truly alcoholic individuals are FAR from being functional (and many of those who are functional professionaly, have great tedencies of child abuse and neglect).

BUT it misses the very basci perception that addiction runs differently for every sort of chemical and different kinds of genetical profile. The odds of becoming addicted to heroin for example, are WAY BIGGER than becoming addicted to alcohol or even coke.

But the rule is, taking any sort of psychoactive drug is almost a genetic russian rulette, untill you try, you'll never know wether you might have an inherent chance of getting extremely addicted. (not counting behavioral profiles that influence a lot too).

So, how could know? If alcohol itself is already a enourmous issue on car accidents, child abuse, neglet and so on...  what would society have to do deal with other drugs? You can test and punish a drunk driver through a simple test, but how could you prevent accidents from other drugs that are harder to test? How could you avoid accidents from drugs that deposit on fat and cause flashbacks days, or even months, after consuming (like LSD)?

A world where drugs are cheap and easy to find, already exists in many producing countries... and honestly, where there are abundant cheap drugs, you'll find some of the worst human conditions in this planet.

As a native from a drug-producing country, I must say:

Why the FUCK don't you "developed world" sissies spoiled tards stop whinning, shape up, grow up, throw away your RIDICULOUS "emmotional wheelchairs" fill your pathetic empty and shallow lives with something (go play in the sun, make some therapy, get relationship with real human beings instead of white dust) and please FUCKING STOP THROWING YOUR CASH TO THE DRUG INDUSTRY... which is no better and it will NEVER BE, than any other bloodsucking manipulative brain-washing industry in this world.

nuff said...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This report is biased beyond logic. It completely excludes statistics, odds and rudimentary knowledge of how neurochemistry works. (not to mention it is a f###ing selfish standpoint, typical of a consumer-country, that is totally oblivious to reality in producer-countries).</p>
<p>Well, alcohol IS a drug and CAN be extremely adicting and unlike the text states, most truly alcoholic individuals are FAR from being functional (and many of those who are functional professionaly, have great tedencies of child abuse and neglect).</p>
<p>BUT it misses the very basci perception that addiction runs differently for every sort of chemical and different kinds of genetical profile. The odds of becoming addicted to heroin for example, are WAY BIGGER than becoming addicted to alcohol or even coke.</p>
<p>But the rule is, taking any sort of psychoactive drug is almost a genetic russian rulette, untill you try, you&#8217;ll never know wether you might have an inherent chance of getting extremely addicted. (not counting behavioral profiles that influence a lot too).</p>
<p>So, how could know? If alcohol itself is already a enourmous issue on car accidents, child abuse, neglet and so on&#8230;  what would society have to do deal with other drugs? You can test and punish a drunk driver through a simple test, but how could you prevent accidents from other drugs that are harder to test? How could you avoid accidents from drugs that deposit on fat and cause flashbacks days, or even months, after consuming (like LSD)?</p>
<p>A world where drugs are cheap and easy to find, already exists in many producing countries&#8230; and honestly, where there are abundant cheap drugs, you&#8217;ll find some of the worst human conditions in this planet.</p>
<p>As a native from a drug-producing country, I must say:</p>
<p>Why the FUCK don&#8217;t you &#8220;developed world&#8221; sissies spoiled tards stop whinning, shape up, grow up, throw away your RIDICULOUS &#8220;emmotional wheelchairs&#8221; fill your pathetic empty and shallow lives with something (go play in the sun, make some therapy, get relationship with real human beings instead of white dust) and please FUCKING STOP THROWING YOUR CASH TO THE DRUG INDUSTRY&#8230; which is no better and it will NEVER BE, than any other bloodsucking manipulative brain-washing industry in this world.</p>
<p>nuff said&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: Carpenter</title>
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		<dc:creator>Carpenter</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 08 Dec 2008 12:58:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gee, taking drugs suddenly sounds like fun. I can almost forget that it fries your brain, turns you into an animal, and, if we are lucky, kills you before you have raped and killed others.

Pakistan is a country where drugs are de facto free, and very cheap. Does that solve the problems? The backstreets of Islamabad are full of heroin-addicted Pakis, even tie-and-suit husbands who have abandoned their families and married a syringe instead. When they die they are just thrown in the nearest river, where their bloated corpses decorate a tourist's Islamabad experience. If the tourist hasn't been killed for his money first.

No, giving people legal poison doesn't solve anything. It is still poison. The problem with middle-class pro-druggers is that they imagine a smart liberal middle-class couple doing a little reefer together before work. They have no idea what drug use looks like in the inner city.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gee, taking drugs suddenly sounds like fun. I can almost forget that it fries your brain, turns you into an animal, and, if we are lucky, kills you before you have raped and killed others.</p>
<p>Pakistan is a country where drugs are de facto free, and very cheap. Does that solve the problems? The backstreets of Islamabad are full of heroin-addicted Pakis, even tie-and-suit husbands who have abandoned their families and married a syringe instead. When they die they are just thrown in the nearest river, where their bloated corpses decorate a tourist&#8217;s Islamabad experience. If the tourist hasn&#8217;t been killed for his money first.</p>
<p>No, giving people legal poison doesn&#8217;t solve anything. It is still poison. The problem with middle-class pro-druggers is that they imagine a smart liberal middle-class couple doing a little reefer together before work. They have no idea what drug use looks like in the inner city.</p>
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		<title>By: WE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 15:45:47 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You're correct John Smith, circumstantially hope and hopelessness are not counterfactual but situational, I guess what I meant was that on a deeper philosophical level for me as an individual, the belief in something beyond myself is a prerequisite for hope, but it's a more specific form of hope, which for me is actually meaning, I need to believe that my life has some form of meaning that transcends myself, that we all are connected to this meaning, that the evil we inflict upon each other is done in opposition to something higher than us, that acts like the holocaust were somehow in opposition to the universe. Of course I have no means of ever prooving any of it, or that any of the countless deaths or pain inflicted on the innocent will ever see justice, or that justice even exits.  But for me a universe without justice is a hopeless one, and I oscillate between believing there is or isn't justice in the universe, but from an athiests perspective that would still return to your original position, whereby I was the one making it true, but if there is some higher order, than some form of hope would be definable, if hope were an offshoot of one's proximity to this truth, and if hopelessness could be quantified as a distancing from that which is univeral and true, then whatever's going on inside of me would also be a sign of that which is without as well, but it's all speculation, or it's not.  Peace.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You&#8217;re correct John Smith, circumstantially hope and hopelessness are not counterfactual but situational, I guess what I meant was that on a deeper philosophical level for me as an individual, the belief in something beyond myself is a prerequisite for hope, but it&#8217;s a more specific form of hope, which for me is actually meaning, I need to believe that my life has some form of meaning that transcends myself, that we all are connected to this meaning, that the evil we inflict upon each other is done in opposition to something higher than us, that acts like the holocaust were somehow in opposition to the universe. Of course I have no means of ever prooving any of it, or that any of the countless deaths or pain inflicted on the innocent will ever see justice, or that justice even exits.  But for me a universe without justice is a hopeless one, and I oscillate between believing there is or isn&#8217;t justice in the universe, but from an athiests perspective that would still return to your original position, whereby I was the one making it true, but if there is some higher order, than some form of hope would be definable, if hope were an offshoot of one&#8217;s proximity to this truth, and if hopelessness could be quantified as a distancing from that which is univeral and true, then whatever&#8217;s going on inside of me would also be a sign of that which is without as well, but it&#8217;s all speculation, or it&#8217;s not.  Peace.</p>
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		<title>By: John Smith</title>
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		<dc:creator>John Smith</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 12:04:32 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>#6: I don't think everyone who scams opioids from doctors is necessarily addicted, any more than every kid who once snuck a drink from their parents' liquor cabinet was an addict. Plus, those that are addicted may be better off just maintaining the addiction with regular cheap doses than being dragged unwillingly towards a cure. And finally, maintaining the addiction requires a pharmacist or drugstore clerk, dragging the user away from it requires a jailer, but neither should require a doctor's time and attention.

#20: I don't think hope and melancholy are matters of truth. "2 and 2 is 4" and "2 and 2 is 5" are opposing statements of fact, and only one can ever be true. But "the world has hope" and "the world has no hope" are just ways of saying "I feel hopeful" and "I feel hopeless." Those can both be true at different times, and you can even choose which one to make true. If you have the self control, that is, which most of us don't, most of the time.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>#6: I don&#8217;t think everyone who scams opioids from doctors is necessarily addicted, any more than every kid who once snuck a drink from their parents&#8217; liquor cabinet was an addict. Plus, those that are addicted may be better off just maintaining the addiction with regular cheap doses than being dragged unwillingly towards a cure. And finally, maintaining the addiction requires a pharmacist or drugstore clerk, dragging the user away from it requires a jailer, but neither should require a doctor&#8217;s time and attention.</p>
<p>#20: I don&#8217;t think hope and melancholy are matters of truth. &#8220;2 and 2 is 4&#8243; and &#8220;2 and 2 is 5&#8243; are opposing statements of fact, and only one can ever be true. But &#8220;the world has hope&#8221; and &#8220;the world has no hope&#8221; are just ways of saying &#8220;I feel hopeful&#8221; and &#8220;I feel hopeless.&#8221; Those can both be true at different times, and you can even choose which one to make true. If you have the self control, that is, which most of us don&#8217;t, most of the time.</p>
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		<title>By: Kevin John</title>
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		<dc:creator>Kevin John</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 06 Dec 2008 02:38:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Excellent points here. I've heard of Vox, and intend to return, but forgive me if I'm naive on protocol. 
Yea, Yasha I can relate. Years ago Meth was my favorite rec drug, but saw how it was slowly destroying me and my friends and got out, and that was not easy.
Not to sound pompous, if it was legal I might be persuaded to purchasing a bit, but for now I am happy to eunthanize myself with a few beers, after work and after hours,which usually means I can make a fool of myself with the minimal of amount of people that matter, and I usually have more than a few beers.

'WE' made an excellent point in that philosophically a person will do what their belief in reality persuades them to do.
Their reality about life, about others and especially about them directs one's decision to finally give up and become addicted.
I found out I would rather sacrifice and earn others respect than become 'rich' from others pity. No judgement call, I don't know others circumstances, just mine now, and with the US economy going to hell in a handbasket no one knows what stuff could be around the corner.
I pray there's not a monster under my bed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Excellent points here. I&#8217;ve heard of Vox, and intend to return, but forgive me if I&#8217;m naive on protocol.<br />
Yea, Yasha I can relate. Years ago Meth was my favorite rec drug, but saw how it was slowly destroying me and my friends and got out, and that was not easy.<br />
Not to sound pompous, if it was legal I might be persuaded to purchasing a bit, but for now I am happy to eunthanize myself with a few beers, after work and after hours,which usually means I can make a fool of myself with the minimal of amount of people that matter, and I usually have more than a few beers.</p>
<p>&#8216;WE&#8217; made an excellent point in that philosophically a person will do what their belief in reality persuades them to do.<br />
Their reality about life, about others and especially about them directs one&#8217;s decision to finally give up and become addicted.<br />
I found out I would rather sacrifice and earn others respect than become &#8216;rich&#8217; from others pity. No judgement call, I don&#8217;t know others circumstances, just mine now, and with the US economy going to hell in a handbasket no one knows what stuff could be around the corner.<br />
I pray there&#8217;s not a monster under my bed.</p>
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		<title>By: WE</title>
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		<dc:creator>WE</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 04 Dec 2008 23:04:41 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is one strange irony I see in this, being that from a Russian perspective, the normalisation of alcohol abuse has become both a contributing factor and a symptom of a broken society, vicious circle cliche I know, and I would fear that a further liberalisation of our attitude towards other drugs would only lead us further down the spiral.  In saying that I am for the decriminilization of all drugs, regardless of one's attitude this is a public health issue, not a police matter, and as someone who drinks constantly and smokes pot occasionally I'm not even trying to be moralistic or judgemental towards other people's addictions.  

The real issue is philosophical, when I drink on a regular basis for extended periods of time I am completely functional, but there is an emotional ceiling of melancholy which I rarely breach, and if I stop drinking for around a month I start to feel that techicolor superimposition  of hope again, I'm not sure which is closer to the truth, it's all a balance of chemicals after all, there's no instruction manuel, I don't know the default settings.  

It's all philosophy I guess, if you live and believe your live has meaning then you'll be less inclined to self-medicate and obfuscate whatever it is that leads you to that tear choked sense of nihilism in the first place.  Once again, I don't know the manufacturer's settings, let alone who or what the manufacturer is, the decision to delve in or escape is completely based on a premise in which none of us has the answer, whether we're escaping reality for an illusion, illusion for reality, or simply upgrading our illusion to something or palitable.  

I'd like to think there is some hope in this, even the exile with all of it's depravity showed it's own puritanical tones in regards to western hyprocisy.  I for example see prostitution as the highest form of capitalism (after the Real World and reality television), turning another human being into a product to be consumed, often outsourcing the violence to a pimp like fat US patriots do with Blackwater, feeling sick by all of the heartless ex-pats who are still feeding off of the dish of cheap provincial girls whose economic desperation and poor education were manufactured by the IMF's breaking of this country in the 90's. And while this paper turns the degradation of those women into artful pornography, they show incredible contempt for ignorance, neo-liberalism and journalistic hacks who merely tow party lines to the benefit of western power brokers.  The question being why, they must care, there is some point where most people feel outraged about something, we cry for the degredation of one while benefiting from the degredation of the other.  Or maybe outrage just belies hope, maybe it's just another form of hatred made sweeter by self-righteousness. I just figure the reason between every pill drink and needle comes down to this, do I really care about anything? The answer to that question is the answer to what we do about the rest of it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is one strange irony I see in this, being that from a Russian perspective, the normalisation of alcohol abuse has become both a contributing factor and a symptom of a broken society, vicious circle cliche I know, and I would fear that a further liberalisation of our attitude towards other drugs would only lead us further down the spiral.  In saying that I am for the decriminilization of all drugs, regardless of one&#8217;s attitude this is a public health issue, not a police matter, and as someone who drinks constantly and smokes pot occasionally I&#8217;m not even trying to be moralistic or judgemental towards other people&#8217;s addictions.  </p>
<p>The real issue is philosophical, when I drink on a regular basis for extended periods of time I am completely functional, but there is an emotional ceiling of melancholy which I rarely breach, and if I stop drinking for around a month I start to feel that techicolor superimposition  of hope again, I&#8217;m not sure which is closer to the truth, it&#8217;s all a balance of chemicals after all, there&#8217;s no instruction manuel, I don&#8217;t know the default settings.  </p>
<p>It&#8217;s all philosophy I guess, if you live and believe your live has meaning then you&#8217;ll be less inclined to self-medicate and obfuscate whatever it is that leads you to that tear choked sense of nihilism in the first place.  Once again, I don&#8217;t know the manufacturer&#8217;s settings, let alone who or what the manufacturer is, the decision to delve in or escape is completely based on a premise in which none of us has the answer, whether we&#8217;re escaping reality for an illusion, illusion for reality, or simply upgrading our illusion to something or palitable.  </p>
<p>I&#8217;d like to think there is some hope in this, even the exile with all of it&#8217;s depravity showed it&#8217;s own puritanical tones in regards to western hyprocisy.  I for example see prostitution as the highest form of capitalism (after the Real World and reality television), turning another human being into a product to be consumed, often outsourcing the violence to a pimp like fat US patriots do with Blackwater, feeling sick by all of the heartless ex-pats who are still feeding off of the dish of cheap provincial girls whose economic desperation and poor education were manufactured by the IMF&#8217;s breaking of this country in the 90&#8217;s. And while this paper turns the degradation of those women into artful pornography, they show incredible contempt for ignorance, neo-liberalism and journalistic hacks who merely tow party lines to the benefit of western power brokers.  The question being why, they must care, there is some point where most people feel outraged about something, we cry for the degredation of one while benefiting from the degredation of the other.  Or maybe outrage just belies hope, maybe it&#8217;s just another form of hatred made sweeter by self-righteousness. I just figure the reason between every pill drink and needle comes down to this, do I really care about anything? The answer to that question is the answer to what we do about the rest of it.</p>
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		<title>By: Izy</title>
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		<dc:creator>Izy</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 03 Dec 2008 09:47:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"As it is, my father is dying and I’d much rather he do speed and visit hookers than waste another goddamned hour in front of the television. What a waste of life."

There are other alternatives in live too. Maybe your father has only to choose between those two. Than he is really a poor soul. I agree with you, some people don't manage to make more of their life. Probably because nobody took the time to teach them, how to do it the other way.

I agree with you, that if you have to choose between televison and hookers, then go for the hookers ;) I am not so sure for drugs though .. but maybe you are right.

But, this is only for desperate people, who didn't manage to arange their life. It isn't something that you should propose to anyone. I hope you will not end up like your father, with such poor choices.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;As it is, my father is dying and I’d much rather he do speed and visit hookers than waste another goddamned hour in front of the television. What a waste of life.&#8221;</p>
<p>There are other alternatives in live too. Maybe your father has only to choose between those two. Than he is really a poor soul. I agree with you, some people don&#8217;t manage to make more of their life. Probably because nobody took the time to teach them, how to do it the other way.</p>
<p>I agree with you, that if you have to choose between televison and hookers, then go for the hookers <img src='http://exiledonline.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';)' class='wp-smiley' /> I am not so sure for drugs though .. but maybe you are right.</p>
<p>But, this is only for desperate people, who didn&#8217;t manage to arange their life. It isn&#8217;t something that you should propose to anyone. I hope you will not end up like your father, with such poor choices.</p>
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