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		<title>By: FranSix</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-15820</link>
		<dc:creator>FranSix</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2009 15:08:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You know, considering that the Russians had gotten as far as California, and that Alaska was also a part of Russia at one time,  The Hudson&#039;s Bay Company wasn&#039;t as great as all that back then.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You know, considering that the Russians had gotten as far as California, and that Alaska was also a part of Russia at one time,  The Hudson&#8217;s Bay Company wasn&#8217;t as great as all that back then.</p>
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		<title>By: Retvisan</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-15395</link>
		<dc:creator>Retvisan</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 02 Oct 2009 19:02:22 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Instead of bickering about petty bullshit, both countries should instead pay closer attention to the rising of China.  1/4 of world&#039;s populations, expanding industrial and technological might, they would soon look into a traditional empire building - occupation of nearby lands.  The ever-weakening RF is still dangerous but has the best return on invasion - untapped resources from Eastern Siberia and Russia&#039;s Far East.  With the Siberian resources, China will be a threat to American interests around the globe.  It would be in the best interests of both Russia and USA to become friends.  After all, both have the capitalist form of economy, both are democratic countries (at least on paper, and the US is no more democratic than the RF).  It should start from the top and the media should carry the change in the ideology into the masses.
just my 2 cents</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Instead of bickering about petty bullshit, both countries should instead pay closer attention to the rising of China.  1/4 of world&#8217;s populations, expanding industrial and technological might, they would soon look into a traditional empire building &#8211; occupation of nearby lands.  The ever-weakening RF is still dangerous but has the best return on invasion &#8211; untapped resources from Eastern Siberia and Russia&#8217;s Far East.  With the Siberian resources, China will be a threat to American interests around the globe.  It would be in the best interests of both Russia and USA to become friends.  After all, both have the capitalist form of economy, both are democratic countries (at least on paper, and the US is no more democratic than the RF).  It should start from the top and the media should carry the change in the ideology into the masses.<br />
just my 2 cents</p>
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		<title>By: Roisky</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-4577</link>
		<dc:creator>Roisky</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 08 Mar 2009 02:13:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>whitedevil the idiot, it is america who&#039;ll be swamped with squalor and really turn into another mexico. Think before you fart with stinking stupidity.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>whitedevil the idiot, it is america who&#8217;ll be swamped with squalor and really turn into another mexico. Think before you fart with stinking stupidity.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack Boot</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-4262</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack Boot</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 20:50:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>The USA vs. Afghanistan and Iraq, and Russia vs. Chechnya and Georgia - rather pathetic, if Truth be told.
All these operations are glorified SWAT-team raids, rather than actual wars.
Neither Patton nor Zhukov would have been impressed...

Face it: Both America and Russia are in decline; both feature hollowed-out economies, and both remain competitive only in the weapons sector. 

Russia is superior in the low end of the market (small arms, tanks, AFVs, etc) while America dominates the top end (missiles, planes, subs, etc).

Who will win; or rather, who will collapse first? Place your bets...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The USA vs. Afghanistan and Iraq, and Russia vs. Chechnya and Georgia &#8211; rather pathetic, if Truth be told.<br />
All these operations are glorified SWAT-team raids, rather than actual wars.<br />
Neither Patton nor Zhukov would have been impressed&#8230;</p>
<p>Face it: Both America and Russia are in decline; both feature hollowed-out economies, and both remain competitive only in the weapons sector. </p>
<p>Russia is superior in the low end of the market (small arms, tanks, AFVs, etc) while America dominates the top end (missiles, planes, subs, etc).</p>
<p>Who will win; or rather, who will collapse first? Place your bets&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: ewkeane</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-3163</link>
		<dc:creator>ewkeane</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 28 Jan 2009 18:28:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I was under the impression that the revolutionary stage of soviet communism  ended because soviet party leadership saw that the west had adopted most of the tenants of marxist communism as public policy, thus an armed vanguard of the socialist workers was no longer needed.  As the world continues to unionize into economic world councils, these nationalistic side shows will occur less and less.  The route to world communism via the Fabian Highway is the program that works, slow but sure, like a blue turtle to the red hare.  Reactionaries will fade by and by, frustrated by the masses indoctrinated with the revised Trotsky program.                               Witness americas election of Obama.         Patience, comrades!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I was under the impression that the revolutionary stage of soviet communism  ended because soviet party leadership saw that the west had adopted most of the tenants of marxist communism as public policy, thus an armed vanguard of the socialist workers was no longer needed.  As the world continues to unionize into economic world councils, these nationalistic side shows will occur less and less.  The route to world communism via the Fabian Highway is the program that works, slow but sure, like a blue turtle to the red hare.  Reactionaries will fade by and by, frustrated by the masses indoctrinated with the revised Trotsky program.                               Witness americas election of Obama.         Patience, comrades!</p>
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		<title>By: Commie</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-3074</link>
		<dc:creator>Commie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 24 Jan 2009 22:35:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>To Arfa: did you think Georgia kept some T72s from the Soviet days? Where did it purchase the T72? With whose money?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>To Arfa: did you think Georgia kept some T72s from the Soviet days? Where did it purchase the T72? With whose money?</p>
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		<title>By: Arfa</title>
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		<dc:creator>Arfa</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 21 Jan 2009 14:31:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Everything that the Georgians left behind, I mean everything, was American.&quot;

Oh OK.  That&#039;ll be an American T72 tank, then?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Everything that the Georgians left behind, I mean everything, was American.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oh OK.  That&#8217;ll be an American T72 tank, then?</p>
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		<title>By: Paul Non-Poet</title>
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		<dc:creator>Paul Non-Poet</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 18 Jan 2009 04:02:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>When Russia first rolled in to SE my landlord (formerly operative in Russia after Yeltsin, I was there during Perestoika and Gorbachev) asked me what I would do in that situation. I said I would roll a medical relief ship with navy colors and 2 dozen journalists up to Poti and offload. Acknowledging but not requesting. Call the bluff. Ask them if they want to shoot first and turn it from a cold war to a hot one with the US.
     I think the author isolates it well as a question of will. There is little question of ability. The Russian Federation made a display of will. And the west made a display of diplomacy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>When Russia first rolled in to SE my landlord (formerly operative in Russia after Yeltsin, I was there during Perestoika and Gorbachev) asked me what I would do in that situation. I said I would roll a medical relief ship with navy colors and 2 dozen journalists up to Poti and offload. Acknowledging but not requesting. Call the bluff. Ask them if they want to shoot first and turn it from a cold war to a hot one with the US.<br />
     I think the author isolates it well as a question of will. There is little question of ability. The Russian Federation made a display of will. And the west made a display of diplomacy.</p>
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		<title>By: VDV</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2553</link>
		<dc:creator>VDV</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 30 Dec 2008 22:31:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>First, the article is spot on.  Second, there is lots of trash comments about Russia, although I saw some valid points, eg the WW2 reference.  Let me clarify a couple of important things:
1. Russia is indeed weak and facing many problems. Yet everyone has its share of problems these days.
2. Whatever disadvantages Russia and Russians may have, Russia is not to be messed around with.  Russia has always been weak for one reason or another, but throughout its history has always coped to rip its enemies apart when it comes to it. I do not recommend for anyone to try and test its steel. Many of the commenters here would speak German and work in a concentration camp, if not for the Russians - so please be discreet when you talk about them.

As for the USA, the country exists on printing dollars and building its debt pyramid, the largest pyramid on this planet. When it implodes (inevitably), this will be a disaster much worse than what is happening now, and that will be the logical shameful end of the US, a used to be global bully and parasite.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>First, the article is spot on.  Second, there is lots of trash comments about Russia, although I saw some valid points, eg the WW2 reference.  Let me clarify a couple of important things:<br />
1. Russia is indeed weak and facing many problems. Yet everyone has its share of problems these days.<br />
2. Whatever disadvantages Russia and Russians may have, Russia is not to be messed around with.  Russia has always been weak for one reason or another, but throughout its history has always coped to rip its enemies apart when it comes to it. I do not recommend for anyone to try and test its steel. Many of the commenters here would speak German and work in a concentration camp, if not for the Russians &#8211; so please be discreet when you talk about them.</p>
<p>As for the USA, the country exists on printing dollars and building its debt pyramid, the largest pyramid on this planet. When it implodes (inevitably), this will be a disaster much worse than what is happening now, and that will be the logical shameful end of the US, a used to be global bully and parasite.</p>
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		<title>By: MeatProduct</title>
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		<dc:creator>MeatProduct</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 19 Dec 2008 20:34:24 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I fail to see any meaningful signs of American decline or Russia&#039; ascent. In any case, there&#039;s no way to tell now, until the fog from this financial mess clears. All around, great reporting by Ames, as usual, but the suggested implications are a little stretched, it seems to me. 

Russia&#039;s recent surge was made possible by US&#039; preoccupation in Iraq, as well as Afghanistan. The US did not have the manpower or the clout to check Russia&#039;s attempts to reestablish some of its former sphere of influence. 

With the US&#039; withdrawal from Iraq, provided it can somehow wash its hands clean of the mess that country is bound to turn into, it will be more free to limit Russia&#039;s exertions in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. And, as the US will be forced to abandon any active agenda in the Middle East, it will need a new foe. Who better than the Russians? 

The new cold war begins.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I fail to see any meaningful signs of American decline or Russia&#8217; ascent. In any case, there&#8217;s no way to tell now, until the fog from this financial mess clears. All around, great reporting by Ames, as usual, but the suggested implications are a little stretched, it seems to me. </p>
<p>Russia&#8217;s recent surge was made possible by US&#8217; preoccupation in Iraq, as well as Afghanistan. The US did not have the manpower or the clout to check Russia&#8217;s attempts to reestablish some of its former sphere of influence. </p>
<p>With the US&#8217; withdrawal from Iraq, provided it can somehow wash its hands clean of the mess that country is bound to turn into, it will be more free to limit Russia&#8217;s exertions in Eastern Europe and the Caucasus. And, as the US will be forced to abandon any active agenda in the Middle East, it will need a new foe. Who better than the Russians? </p>
<p>The new cold war begins.</p>
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		<title>By: geo8rge</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2496</link>
		<dc:creator>geo8rge</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 20:02:36 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&quot;Put a fork in that pig.&quot;

Oleg, I think the Americanism you are looking for is:  Stick a fork in it, it&#039;s done. Or perhaps Stick a fork in that pig, it&#039;s done.  Or even: Stick a fork in (America&#124;the American empire&#124;Americanism&#124;the American dream&#124;American prosperity&#124;American ______), it&#039;s done.  

BTW, if you really did travel through America you should write a book.  Dimitri Orlov, closing the collapse gap, has done surprisingly well.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;Put a fork in that pig.&#8221;</p>
<p>Oleg, I think the Americanism you are looking for is:  Stick a fork in it, it&#8217;s done. Or perhaps Stick a fork in that pig, it&#8217;s done.  Or even: Stick a fork in (America|the American empire|Americanism|the American dream|American prosperity|American ______), it&#8217;s done.  </p>
<p>BTW, if you really did travel through America you should write a book.  Dimitri Orlov, closing the collapse gap, has done surprisingly well.</p>
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		<title>By: sknabt</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2488</link>
		<dc:creator>sknabt</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Dec 2008 03:48:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I always wondered if Mark Ames hated Russia more for kicking his rag out or America for simply existing. I guess I got my answer in this incomprehensible pile of [Russian] flag-waving rubbish.

I could throw a dart at any paragraph to rip to shreds. This sentence found it&#039;s mark: 

&quot;If we’re lucky, we’ll survive the humiliating decline and settle into the new reality without causing too much damage to ourselves or the rest of the world.&quot;

After this head-stuck-up-one&#039;s-ass bullsh*t there&#039;s some complete idiocy about desperate neo-cons bull-rushing for the nukes.

Mark, in your rush to bury America under a pile of imaginary &quot;humiliation&quot; you&#039;ve become completely sucked into the Russophile (on steroids) version of the conflict. 

America&#039;s alarm wasn&#039;t at any catastrophic loss power but over Russia&#039;s apparent lust to cling onto the remnants of her former empire that haven&#039;t yet succeeded in fleeing into the safe arms of NATO.

The ego masturbation of Russian military officers preening over punking puny Georgia&#039;s &quot;American trained&quot; army as if they just took out the entirety of USEUCOM is hilarious. 

Let&#039;s see Putin try to punk NATO. ;^)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I always wondered if Mark Ames hated Russia more for kicking his rag out or America for simply existing. I guess I got my answer in this incomprehensible pile of [Russian] flag-waving rubbish.</p>
<p>I could throw a dart at any paragraph to rip to shreds. This sentence found it&#8217;s mark: </p>
<p>&#8220;If we’re lucky, we’ll survive the humiliating decline and settle into the new reality without causing too much damage to ourselves or the rest of the world.&#8221;</p>
<p>After this head-stuck-up-one&#8217;s-ass bullsh*t there&#8217;s some complete idiocy about desperate neo-cons bull-rushing for the nukes.</p>
<p>Mark, in your rush to bury America under a pile of imaginary &#8220;humiliation&#8221; you&#8217;ve become completely sucked into the Russophile (on steroids) version of the conflict. </p>
<p>America&#8217;s alarm wasn&#8217;t at any catastrophic loss power but over Russia&#8217;s apparent lust to cling onto the remnants of her former empire that haven&#8217;t yet succeeded in fleeing into the safe arms of NATO.</p>
<p>The ego masturbation of Russian military officers preening over punking puny Georgia&#8217;s &#8220;American trained&#8221; army as if they just took out the entirety of USEUCOM is hilarious. </p>
<p>Let&#8217;s see Putin try to punk NATO. ;^)</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:54:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oleg Wrote: &quot;Amerikka is as good as dead. I traveled through it, and 90% of it looks 3rd world. The only reminder of not being in Africa was a good road. Beyond that, it’s a fraud, and a collapsing one at that.
Put a fork in that pig.&quot;

Jesus, did they resurrect Brezhnev and give him a screen name on here or what?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oleg Wrote: &#8220;Amerikka is as good as dead. I traveled through it, and 90% of it looks 3rd world. The only reminder of not being in Africa was a good road. Beyond that, it’s a fraud, and a collapsing one at that.<br />
Put a fork in that pig.&#8221;</p>
<p>Jesus, did they resurrect Brezhnev and give him a screen name on here or what?</p>
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		<title>By: Colin</title>
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		<dc:creator>Colin</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 17 Dec 2008 03:51:29 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Seriously? You&#039;re going to count the Georgian conflict as the watershed mark of the downfall of the empirical US? I think eighty-six million Vietnamese would like to have a word with you about that. 

Sure, some buyers of US tech got their asses handed to them by the big, bad Ivans of Russia. But to say that it was a failure on the part of the US is to say that the Israeli strike of the Syrian nuclear processing sites was a victory for a US proxy and a blow to Russia because they managed to show up the air defense systems the Russians had just sold Syria. 

All this piece is, is a sad bit of pro-Russian propaganda attempting to capitalize on the &quot;New Cold War&quot; that every armchair general and their brother has been foaming at the mouth about for the past few years. 

The United States&#039; decline as an empirical power started with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Russia had nothing to do with it other than screwing up the Soviet system of government so badly that it was bound to crumble. Once the scary bear at the door to Europe was castrated and made to beg for forgiveness for it&#039;s past indiscretions, the rest of the world figured they didn&#039;t need our military might to keep Russia at bay anymore. The past few conflicts have been nothing more than shoddy attempts to keep a failing military-industrial complex from dying out completely. What&#039;s more, modern Russia is doing the exact same thing. In an attempt to make itself relevant in a world where commerce and consumer societies dictate the flow of power, Russia hasn&#039;t been able to keep up. The ONLY thing they&#039;ve got going for them right now is oil, and just like in the 70&#039;s when they made a fortune off of selling oil during the embargo, they&#039;re living high on the hog with no mind to the future when oil will no longer be the cash cow it is. Even now, with crude prices spiraling downward, Russia is starting to feel the economic crunch. The only thing that ANYONE in the government there knows how to do to put forward a tough visage in times of crisis is to flex their military muscle. While our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or nothing more than bids to keep the military-industrial complex afloat, the increase in Russian weapons sales and all of the spurious shows of might that we&#039;ve seen from Ivan is nothing but the same.

Pavel Milyukov saw how alike our countries were in the pre-communist days. If you look past the political wrangling, they&#039;re the same animal underneath going through the same things over and over again.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Seriously? You&#8217;re going to count the Georgian conflict as the watershed mark of the downfall of the empirical US? I think eighty-six million Vietnamese would like to have a word with you about that. </p>
<p>Sure, some buyers of US tech got their asses handed to them by the big, bad Ivans of Russia. But to say that it was a failure on the part of the US is to say that the Israeli strike of the Syrian nuclear processing sites was a victory for a US proxy and a blow to Russia because they managed to show up the air defense systems the Russians had just sold Syria. </p>
<p>All this piece is, is a sad bit of pro-Russian propaganda attempting to capitalize on the &#8220;New Cold War&#8221; that every armchair general and their brother has been foaming at the mouth about for the past few years. </p>
<p>The United States&#8217; decline as an empirical power started with the fall of the Berlin Wall. Russia had nothing to do with it other than screwing up the Soviet system of government so badly that it was bound to crumble. Once the scary bear at the door to Europe was castrated and made to beg for forgiveness for it&#8217;s past indiscretions, the rest of the world figured they didn&#8217;t need our military might to keep Russia at bay anymore. The past few conflicts have been nothing more than shoddy attempts to keep a failing military-industrial complex from dying out completely. What&#8217;s more, modern Russia is doing the exact same thing. In an attempt to make itself relevant in a world where commerce and consumer societies dictate the flow of power, Russia hasn&#8217;t been able to keep up. The ONLY thing they&#8217;ve got going for them right now is oil, and just like in the 70&#8242;s when they made a fortune off of selling oil during the embargo, they&#8217;re living high on the hog with no mind to the future when oil will no longer be the cash cow it is. Even now, with crude prices spiraling downward, Russia is starting to feel the economic crunch. The only thing that ANYONE in the government there knows how to do to put forward a tough visage in times of crisis is to flex their military muscle. While our wars in Iraq and Afghanistan or nothing more than bids to keep the military-industrial complex afloat, the increase in Russian weapons sales and all of the spurious shows of might that we&#8217;ve seen from Ivan is nothing but the same.</p>
<p>Pavel Milyukov saw how alike our countries were in the pre-communist days. If you look past the political wrangling, they&#8217;re the same animal underneath going through the same things over and over again.</p>
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		<title>By: anonymous</title>
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		<dc:creator>anonymous</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 22:34:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am an imbecile. But let met try to say something, even if it comes out idiotic, which I&#039;m sure it will. You cannot be “an ethic Persian tribe” that is utterly nonsensical. The term is Iranic tribe of which Persians are just one group. Please do not make a fool of yourself spreading absurd disinformation. What sort of journalism is this when you make such completely idiotic nonsense statements making it glaringly clear you have no idea what you are even talking about?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am an imbecile. But let met try to say something, even if it comes out idiotic, which I&#8217;m sure it will. You cannot be “an ethic Persian tribe” that is utterly nonsensical. The term is Iranic tribe of which Persians are just one group. Please do not make a fool of yourself spreading absurd disinformation. What sort of journalism is this when you make such completely idiotic nonsense statements making it glaringly clear you have no idea what you are even talking about?</p>
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		<title>By: abb1</title>
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		<dc:creator>abb1</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 21:49:42 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nah. Losing a real war is always bad for the morale, but losing a proxy war can be good. Low expense, high propaganda value: brave little democracy crushed by ruthless villain - a perfect excuse to bump the &#039;defense&#039; budget by another $100 billion or so. 

Also, before the incident 65% of the Polaks were against having American missiles in their country and now 65% are for it and the politicians are happy to comply. 

Cold war is good for business, good for the economy, for the discipline, for rationalizing anything and everything the government does.

So, here&#039;s the score: Georgia lost, Russia won, and the US won too. Could it be that Putin and Bush planned it together?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nah. Losing a real war is always bad for the morale, but losing a proxy war can be good. Low expense, high propaganda value: brave little democracy crushed by ruthless villain &#8211; a perfect excuse to bump the &#8216;defense&#8217; budget by another $100 billion or so. </p>
<p>Also, before the incident 65% of the Polaks were against having American missiles in their country and now 65% are for it and the politicians are happy to comply. </p>
<p>Cold war is good for business, good for the economy, for the discipline, for rationalizing anything and everything the government does.</p>
<p>So, here&#8217;s the score: Georgia lost, Russia won, and the US won too. Could it be that Putin and Bush planned it together?</p>
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		<title>By: Manny the Mooch</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2439</link>
		<dc:creator>Manny the Mooch</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 18:04:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Russia may not be all that, but America ain&#039;t the shit either. Made seriously poor by Iraq, Afghanistan, the financial bailouts and perhaps the auto bailouts, it will be a long, long time, if at all, before America gets back to where it was in 2001. The 21st century will belong to India and/or China.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Russia may not be all that, but America ain&#8217;t the shit either. Made seriously poor by Iraq, Afghanistan, the financial bailouts and perhaps the auto bailouts, it will be a long, long time, if at all, before America gets back to where it was in 2001. The 21st century will belong to India and/or China.</p>
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		<title>By: Tam</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2378</link>
		<dc:creator>Tam</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 11:15:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Oleg : You&#039;re a moron.

I never thought I&#039;d say this, but can&#039;t you guys bring back Vlad Kalashnikov for a bit to show this cretin how to do this sort of thing properly?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Oleg : You&#8217;re a moron.</p>
<p>I never thought I&#8217;d say this, but can&#8217;t you guys bring back Vlad Kalashnikov for a bit to show this cretin how to do this sort of thing properly?</p>
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		<title>By: cal</title>
		<link>http://exiledonline.com/the-day-americas-empire-died/comment-page-1/#comment-2373</link>
		<dc:creator>cal</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:12:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Actually Rob, the British Empire didn&#039;t really collapse - it simply morphed. The Brits starting with Cecil Rhodes were smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall. The very much usurped the American elite - founding such establishment icons as the CFR. The British Empire was never about average Brits, it was about the mercantile and banking interests of the British aristocratic families and the upstart banking family dynasties. They are still the people calling the shots in the &quot;Anglo-American&quot; world.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Actually Rob, the British Empire didn&#8217;t really collapse &#8211; it simply morphed. The Brits starting with Cecil Rhodes were smart enough to see the handwriting on the wall. The very much usurped the American elite &#8211; founding such establishment icons as the CFR. The British Empire was never about average Brits, it was about the mercantile and banking interests of the British aristocratic families and the upstart banking family dynasties. They are still the people calling the shots in the &#8220;Anglo-American&#8221; world.</p>
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		<title>By: C</title>
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		<dc:creator>C</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 15 Dec 2008 03:09:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There are so many small religious/ethnic conflicts in the Balkans, it would be folly for America to get involved. I wonder how much of this is for Russian public consumption... But not a case of stopping the spread of communism.. Czechoslovakia is now the Czech Republic a free market democracy and will be the seat of the EU soon. Thats a much more telling fact about America&#039;s lasting influence than this skirmish.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There are so many small religious/ethnic conflicts in the Balkans, it would be folly for America to get involved. I wonder how much of this is for Russian public consumption&#8230; But not a case of stopping the spread of communism.. Czechoslovakia is now the Czech Republic a free market democracy and will be the seat of the EU soon. Thats a much more telling fact about America&#8217;s lasting influence than this skirmish.</p>
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