Comments on: The War Nerd: This Is How the Carriers Will Die (Updated Version)

By: Phoenix Woman

Phoenix Woman — Mon, 23 Jan 2012 15:02:58 +0000

Bert and Ernie @ 250: You missed this piece by Brecher on China’s joining the yacht club:

http://exiledonline.com/war-nerd-china-joins-the-yacht-club/

Synopsis: China’s got one (1) carrier they’re building, which is an old half-finished 1980s-era USSR hulk they bought for cheap through intermediaries. Hardly a “mad rush”.

By: Bert and Ernie

Bert and Ernie — Thu, 08 Dec 2011 21:40:55 +0000

China would become a glowing red country in the event of conflict between the USA and China.
The US has so much nuclear content it would decimate the country and dynasty known as China.
India would also likely fire all they possess at China and Pakistan.
Obviously the world would, celebrate Pakiland being destroyed as that place is as backwards as Afghanistan.

Also this blog waxing on and on about carriers its funny how China is now on a mad rush to build many super carriers so apparently they dont agree with you about them being useless.

By: baby marino

baby marino — Fri, 18 Nov 2011 12:15:32 +0000

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By: Johnny360.com

Johnny360.com — Thu, 23 Jun 2011 21:23:54 +0000

China will never fight against the U.S. why? China is the most populated country the in the world, I bet 60% of the people’s income are coming from manufacturing companies in which their products will be exported back to the U.S. Billions of people will simply starve to death. 500 super missiles might sink an aircraft carrier and kill thousands of enlisted personnel. BUT, even before the 1st supper missile could hit the carrier, thousands have died already due to counter attack.

By: Steve Drey

Steve Drey — Mon, 09 May 2011 16:34:15 +0000

The article brings up interesting issues.
Unfortunately it is written in a style more appropriate to a 12 year old.

By: furioso

furioso — Thu, 14 Apr 2011 17:20:39 +0000

durning ww2 the luftwaffe used an anti ship missile to sink the regia marina italian battleship roma (or littorio im not sure) in 43 when she was going into neutral port-thats a ww2 anti ship missle

By: Z-man

Z-man — Mon, 28 Feb 2011 00:35:37 +0000

Clearly this dick head has never heard of Ageis.

By: Stewart_in_London

Stewart_in_London — Fri, 19 Nov 2010 23:30:22 +0000

How to whack a big fellow

At 90% oil imports China isnt becoming the next global hegemon. They’d be coming at you on donkeys and ho fun electric bikes, the donkeys become the rations when the batteries run out.

But in the great game they intend to mean business. And they’re just so big you cant square up to them. Dont forget that.

Like ourselves a Chinaman loves something tasty at the weekend, but theyll pass on that for a nice bit of gear. Its just not as easy to get hold of as it was in great, grandfathers day.

This is why the Brits are busy securing that ‘age old’ gap in the market. Our ‘modern’ expedition force are ‘carrying on up the kyhber’, ramping our demand led supply interventions, straight into the Turkic backside of Chinaland (we got our familiar HK drop off points too).

Its pretty easy to shift that stuff in China, they lurve it, even keeps them from gambling, perhaps. Think about those cheap shipping containers going back every hour of every day, emptied of shite but not always!. Customs officials like a bit too.

North Americans can ask Olly North about this kind of thing, but us Brits been there long time, we got Tea shirt.

We would be better off using those carriers for ‘deliveries’. Better chance of pacifying the natives, they’d love us too!

chin chin

By: Trinidad Gady

Trinidad Gady — Wed, 10 Nov 2010 20:06:36 +0000

Amaze! For a nice and researching the search engines all day just for this and that i ultimately thought it was right here!

By: Aidan McSharry

Aidan McSharry — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:48:24 +0000

@whatwar
the carrier group would have turned tail after the first swarm and the CAP orbiting the carrier would then deploy to find out where they came from. then the second wave, missiles shot down. carrier is still chugging away ahead full. right before the third is launched, the CAPs would find the assailants and neutralize them or the carrier group would be out of range. if they were slow moving cruise missles, the phalanxes would just gun them down over and over

By: Aidan McSharry

Aidan McSharry — Mon, 06 Sep 2010 20:35:00 +0000

Please, thats garbage. You think that the world around the aircraft carrier is evolving and the aircraft carrier itself is standing still watching? the carrier evolves too. The Nimitz Class is nearing its end game, enter the CVNs, the Nimitz’s capable replacement. More advanced tracking systems, better radar, faster, more Phalanxes, and interception missiles to boot. id like to see the Dog Fat 21 get by that, not to mention, in war time, CARRIERS ARE NEVER ALONE! Ill be impressed if the missile gets past the 5 Aegis class cruisers gaurding the carrier and her 700 man crew. The Navy takes these things into account, if they thought the carrier was too vulnerable, they would have done something about it

By: Cassius

Cassius — Tue, 24 Aug 2010 20:17:10 +0000

maybe no balistic defense that is disclosed

By: fuckyouall

fuckyouall — Tue, 10 Aug 2010 08:15:37 +0000

i am really worried about the future of us, if the third world war really happened, how should us maintain his position of world leader. mr. obama had said in one of his speech that he, on behalf of the whold us, would never allow us to become the second most powerful country. then, if war pasted, what will happen, i really want to know.

By: James Lemoyne

James Lemoyne — Fri, 06 Aug 2010 13:01:12 +0000

I would think it possible to (1) improve ABM systems on carriers or support ships in the group to counter the DF21 and (2) consider deploying aircraft from smaller vessels – i.e. build a new generation of smaller carriers, thereby reducing target size while maintaining forward power. Surely the author must realise the vulnerability of the large ship is nothing new – has he heard of the torpedo? The problem is as old as the hills and hysteria helps no one.

By: whatwar

whatwar — Tue, 06 Jul 2010 12:19:24 +0000

This whole AshBM business is just a part of an overall “solution” No doubt.

For those who held Aegis as their “Messiah” needs to understand… Them CG’s and DDG’s carries a limited amount of SAM’s. The Carrier group WILL survive one or perhaps 2 Swarm attack. but what about the third? what will they do? throw coke can’s at them?

A CSG (that’s Carrier Strike Group USN speak) consists of 1 or 2 Ticonderoga CG’s and 2 or 3 Arleigh Burke DDG’s

There’s only so much SAM’s the whole Carrier group can carry. The Ticonderoga’s carry 80 SAMs and Arleigh Burke’s carry 50 odd. That’s 300-350 effective SM-2′s, the standard procedure is 2 SAM’s per incoming threat. In which case the carrier group will run out of SM-2′s by the second Swarm wave. then the carrier group will become floating targets.

Yes yes I heard y’all screaming “ESSM”! Hey, if you have to use ESSM and CIWS against incoming missle you know you are in knee deep shit.

By: Concerned Citizen

Concerned Citizen — Fri, 07 May 2010 17:39:40 +0000

Most recently, the supercarrier Carl Vinson was repositioned from the East Coast to San Diego–bringing the city’s grand total to 3. Six of 11 aircraft carriers and 29 of 52 attack submarines now operate in the PACOM area of responsibility. There is serious talk of having a second permanently-forward deployed supercarrier as part of the current Guam buildup. And let’s not forget Diego Garcia in the Indian Ocean, along with our friends in the region: India, South Korea, Japan.

The United States is aware of the asymmetrical Chinese missile threat, along with China’s belligerent conventional military, and is acting accordingly.

By: Geoduck

Geoduck — Tue, 27 Apr 2010 23:24:02 +0000

The New York Times finally jumps on the War Nerd bandwagon:

http://www.nytimes.com/reuters/2010/04/26/world/international-us-russia-weapon.html

By: Carbon

Carbon — Sun, 25 Apr 2010 13:06:36 +0000

Fred Reed agrees:

http://original.antiwar.com/reed/2010/04/23/damn-the-torpedoes-fools-greed-ahead/

By: John S

John S — Fri, 23 Apr 2010 14:25:54 +0000

Having conducted studies for the Navy I can authoritatively state that you are completely incorrect is saying we have ‘no defense’ regarding the DF-21. You aren’t thinking creatively enough.

By: Zhu Bajie

Zhu Bajie — Mon, 19 Apr 2010 13:52:33 +0000

“Col Huang added that China is “seriously considering” adding an aircraft carrier to its fleet, because “the aircraft carrier is a symbol of a country’s overall national strength, as well as the competitiveness of the country’s naval force”.”

Every bad idea in modern China is justified with “That’s what they do in America!!”