Comments on: Uncivil War: Cousin Against Cousin

By: Angry Socialist

Angry Socialist — Fri, 18 Dec 2009 18:07:15 +0000

Wow, reading your comments and you are a bunch of angry, cry babys. You hate your familys? Never want to see them agian? You anti American sissys will have your day. We are on to you and Comrade Hussien Hopenchange.

By: Vlad

Vlad — Thu, 24 Sep 2009 20:34:45 +0000

My extended family has a strict “no politics/religion at the dinner table” policy. It’s a necessity.

I’m glad they haven’t really picked up on emails yet.

By: Sin Froneres

Sin Froneres — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 21:54:26 +0000

@20 It is not about feeling sorry for anyone. It’s about recognizing who shares the same class interest, and who are your potential allies. The members of the techno managerial class will have will have to choose sides wisely.

I am going with the machetes.

Fuck the kleptocracy and their legal process.

By: Bill

Bill — Fri, 28 Aug 2009 19:30:52 +0000

I hate to say this, but I am kind of in the anti-illegal immigration camp. I live in Seattle and work with lots of talented legal immigrants from Europe and Asia. To hear the stories of what they had to go through to get a green card is ridiculous. In the meantime, I’m supposed to feel sorry for the folks who come in and ditch in front of my neighbors and co-workers who’ve come here legally.

Actually, I think we should adopt the laws they have in Mexico: if they catch you in the country illegally, you go to prison. In fact, part of the challenge for those from south of Mexico (like El Salvador and Honduras), is making it through Mexico in one piece and not getting caught by the authorities.

What we need is sensible immigration reform. Personally, I think we need more people coming in, particularly if you are educated or have some special job skills. Most of our Ph.D. students are foreign nationals, and very little is done to retain them after graduation. I can also see a need for low skilled workers in areas like agriculture.

If you want to feel sorry for folks who sneak across the border, fine. Just change the law to make what they do legal.

Just sayin.

By: Allen

Allen — Tue, 25 Aug 2009 07:48:55 +0000

I get these right-wing E-mails, or rather got them, from family. Now family wonders why I never seem to receive their actual communications.

Because I have blocked every last one of them.

Weirdly enough I recall that my Mother’s side were all sort of easy going but almost obnoxiously reflexive Liberals — a disposition which I have never cared for overmuch despite my left sympathies. Over the years, though, it seems they have grown more tightly wound, meaner, and stupider, and consequently into a bunch of reflexively right wing quasi-holy roller douchebags.

What was really annoying about those little chain-letter communications, though, was not the political message they expressed so much as the grotesque air of unjustified smugness. Overbearing sweaty attempts at humor; bad, bad, fucking terrible, allegories; and often the ubiquitous false attributions of said shit to random famous media personalities, all that I could take. But that these things had the massive gall to actually claim to contain “WISDOM” or so called “COMMON SENSE AT LAST”? (Instead of tired, lazy, hackneyed tripe?) That someone sent this shit to me instead of themselves deleting it immediately? That was simply too much to bear.

By: gary

gary — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 22:09:58 +0000

seems that all rite wingers are all rednecks..not really , i live next door to two very smart doctors and was shocked when they told me that they loved bush junior and were happy about the war in iraq…go figure

By: Concerned Citizen

Concerned Citizen — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 19:43:57 +0000

Really, only in America could this combination of hilarity/insanity occur. Opposition to universal health care runs rampant, while dumb-hicks continue to throw tax dollars to the bloated military-industrial complex so Eric Prince can buy a new yacht while our modern-day proconsuls are protected by some sloppy SERB employee of Xe while our military is abroad and securing commodities for the wealthy.

I love this country.

By: Jackass in NJ

Jackass in NJ — Sat, 22 Aug 2009 03:31:51 +0000

I have a very simple way of dealing with wingnut e-mails.

I “reply to all” with an embedded goatse.cx jpeg.

By: Anonymous

Anonymous — Fri, 21 Aug 2009 00:46:11 +0000

Oh God yes. I’ve had this problem ever since I was able to use email, and the general pattern of families bitterly arguing politics is eternal.

By: mikey

mikey — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 20:57:53 +0000

In the back of my mind, I knew that my in-laws were a nest of Nazis, but when my mother-in-law posted one of the anti Obama sites on Facebook, it was all in black and white and no longer open to conjecture. Hope I never see them again.

By: Nestor

Nestor — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 19:01:57 +0000

Has the exiled staff seen this yet? Manning's unique brand of crazy deserves an article or two. (At lease I hope it's unique)

By: Mark

Mark — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 17:41:30 +0000

I used to get emails like that until I made it viciously clear to all senders that I was in no fucking mood to read their illiterate garbage. I must’ve made the point, because I haven’t gotten one of those damned emails in awhile.

I broke away from my hometown conservative state after college about 12 years ago and haven’t looked back since. Been living abroad and in NYC, while pretty much the whole extended family is still back in that little worthless conservative state.

By: jimbo

jimbo — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 14:23:16 +0000

allowing illegal immigration to flood America is just another way the government fucks its citzens. It’s all about importing Mexican poverty to make poor Americans even poorer. If you’re at a socio-economic level where immigration doesn’t degrade your living standards then you’re a hypocrite for critising those who are simply struggling for their own survival in opposing amnesty for illegals.

By: chickenbutt

chickenbutt — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 12:22:40 +0000

Hey why just pick on the mexicans! Kick out all the illegal Armenians! Oh god they need to shave! Dont forget the Chinese! They need to stop making us good white folk compete for college spots! Obamas aunt is an illegal Kenyan! KICK EM ALL OUT! The only people we need in this country are indians!!! FROM INDIA! They will be able to mold America into a great techno society with call centers in every city with many many cows!

By: JayTell

JayTell — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 08:43:46 +0000

My entire family is Repubs. I keep up the Web dialogue though. And I collect their wingnut friends and neighbors’ e-mail addresses like exotic specimens of stupidity. I dialogue with them too. It takes up too much of my time, but I feel like I know everything “their side” is thinking — which is usually something angry, frightened, and mean. Occassionally something pops up I have a hard time rebutting, then I know I need to do my homework, or, Allah forbid, admit they’re right. Liberals agreeing with each other by e-mail and on blogs is boring. Sticking a rhetorical spear in a Repub’s eye and then twisting it (turning all their jargon and myths against them) is fun.
One thing I wish the BB or Exiled would explore: why do conservatives love poltical fables so much? Is it their love of the Bible? Or just that they need reality boiled down into simplistic terms? I get these forwards all the time. They send them like, “Hah! Gotcha!” and I’m like, “This is a made-up tale of a rabbitt, a beetle and some flowers… What the hell does this have to do with Obama or welfare?” “But you gotta admit, it’s sooo true!” they come back. Total incomprehension.

By: Josh

Josh — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 05:06:08 +0000

I get these emails from relatives also, but more from the right wing than the left wing. In my case I have to laugh, because I’m Canadian, and so are most of my relatives, but they send me messages obviously written by Americans, for Americans, about American issues, and some right-wing Canadian has gone through the message and changed every instance of “America” to “Canada”. They’re even occasionally creative enough to change some of the American iconography to its Canadian equivalent. But alas, they always miss a few.

By: Jon Ezell

Jon Ezell — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 04:53:32 +0000

I know the feeling all too well. A good clearinghouse of right-wing email forwards can be found here:
http://myrightwingdad.blogspot.com/

It includes a keyword index, with such gems as:
“NEVER NEVER NEVER FORGET 9/11,” “SEMI-UNCOMFORTABLE,” and “PEOPLE TODAY ARE PANSIES.”

By: Homer Erotic

Homer Erotic — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:52:32 +0000

As a teenager Dan was heartbreakingly beautiful, in that unassuming way working-class young people sometimes are for a short time before heavy drinking and bad diet lays waste to them.

Not the main thrust of your polemic, but I can totally relate. I live in a working-class neighborhood but don’t share the natives’ love of hard drinking and heavy cigarette-smoking. In particular, I can’t help but think of one young guy who used to work in the grocery store where I still work who was a beautiful eighteen year old. Now he’s 25 and looks like he’s 33. At least.

By: Dammerung

Dammerung — Thu, 20 Aug 2009 02:31:20 +0000

This is such a hard issue to navigate. I consider myself a “tea-bagger”: taxes are too damn high and I get very little in return for my investment. Stupidity and violence in Washington is totally non-Partisan, and Obama has only expanded the wars and gaffes draining our blood and treasure. We need to stop this stupid left v. right bullshit and concentrate on what matters: taxes are too high, too much bureaucracy, end the wars, guns in the hands of law-abiding citizens are good, immigration law should be reformed and immigrants should be both subject to our laws and protected by our rights. Instead, the tv news has us lose sight of our core values in an effort to get us to strangle on another.

By: jonny.m

jonny.m — Wed, 19 Aug 2009 23:00:27 +0000

I think everyone has a few right-wing idiots in their family. They tend to always live far away from the non-righties, too. There’s probably a good reason for that.