Well, I have to say in most of the cases, comments are more entertaining than actual article. Toba, I like your comments perhaps more girls in forum will make discussion more entertaining.

Any Soap Opera needs SEX.

from the chapter “PLA operational principal and limited war” by Cheng Feng and Larry Wortzhel

“As another example, Chinese troops in the earlier phase of the dispute showed great restraint in the execution of their ordersm even when faced with serious provocations by Indian forces… However, Chinese restraint in the early stages also may have given the wrong ompression to the Indian government and military, which seem to have regarded the attitude of and activity of Chinese troops as weak. As a consequence, the Indian Army pursued its “forward policy,” nibbling up more Chinese territory, which then compelled China to opt for a broader war.”

[collected from the book Chinese warfighting - the PLA experience from 1949 (pg 190)]

I wish I could reproduce the whole chapter in this excellent book but one paragraph will have to do.

then how come indian troops was fighting at NORTH of the mcmahon line ?

Now,India and Pakistan are not going to fight each other,not because of being smart but because of an inability to withstand requirements of being the Boss. See when you want to be the Boss you take risks and from that point on your life is on the line every moment,every day.You have to kick ass and take names and occasionally your ass is going to be kicked, but in the end you always come out on top because you are testing yourself and doing it hard. You’re not resting on the accomplishments of your ancestors and expecting jokers to be impressed with you as if you were capable of doing what your ancestors could.

You boys are having a great chuckle about Grenada but what was your Uncle to do? permit the grenadians to build an airport that would have been able to withstand the weight of 747′s and these newer heavier aircraft and so shift the economic base of the tourism in Florida from Europe and Asia directly into the West Indies! Things don’t happen that way sport.

As for Vietnam,for the next several generation,little ho chi or his sister had better be careful where they steer the water buffalo when plowing that field because one wrong step and that little undiscovered unexploded bomblet is going to give them a taste of what great great great grandad or ma learnt ,a courtesy of messing with your Uncle.
We might loose here and there but at least we have the balls to recover and go on to greater and better things whilst “you clowns” play it safe and stay in the dirty little corner like the scared chickens you are making imperious utterances like “the price will be high,bets low as if you know whst you are talking about.
Here’s a nice safe bet for you,100 to 1 that you’re blogging from the US and not some dirty little country outside where much can be said of the communications system,nay Internet.

Say what you like,we know and ‘you’ know that these two fags are scared of starting a fight because both want to be the pussy. The fat man called it and we stand by it because ‘we’ know you.
And you’re wrong about Vietnam. You see Marianne was getting her ass reamed well and she called out to her Uncle. A version of ‘white man’s responsibility to another white man’s problem that didn’t play out well,that’s all.

If you boys had any sense at all you would have played the caste system like how it was originally meant to be played where ability takes precident over skin color,family and such but you played it like how chickens do and the result is your low caste folks unable to get anywhere even if they were capable,decided on that Muslim thing instead of that Hindu thing and now you have an absolute mess on your hands and now you want play it safe because if you fight the pakis, it not only becomes a Brahman gets his ass kicked by a sudra thing, it becomes a muslim thing against you all over the world and we can see how the problem becomes difficult when those darn arab muslims jump in with that unlimited supply of cash and eager killers.

What unites all of the above examples are that they have paid terrible prices for their mistake of going to war without taking into consideration the worst case scenario. But also that their gains are quite high. Control of all of Europe (in the case of Napoleon and Germany), expanding territory into the balkans and thus getting many major ports into the med (in the case of Austria-Hungary, that was a landlocked nation) or a swift propaganda victory to prove that no one stands up against you (Iraq War).
Even the US Vietnam intervention was based on the idea that they were stopping the “domino effect” of countries falling to communism 1 by 1 which was seen as an important goal by the self-proclaimed defenders of liberalism and capitalism.

Compare this to the India-Pakistan situation. What is the best case scenario? That one of the two manages to push the other fully out of a region of mostly mountains that has no real value apart from prestige. It is something that no decent leader would ever go to war over, especially not when it could escalate as far as the use of nuclear weapons (highly unlikely, but the possibility exists). Even in a good case scenario, thousands of people would die in the ensuing conflict and material losses on both sides would rise into hundreds of millions of dollars. And this is even before we are taking into account the political balance in the area. How would China react? What would the USA do if India attacks their “Coalition Allies” in Pakistan?

India is playing it smart. Pakistan is also playing it smart. And in this case, playing it smart means going for the safe hand and kepping your bets low. The total winnings on the table is simply not worth going all in for and the price of failure could be immensly high for both sides. And in all likelyhood the price will be high if the conflict escalates too far.

“But look at what happened the one time they tried fighting a real army: the India-China war of 1962. India decided that its new status as world power required it to grab a few square miles of Himalayan wasteland from China. They worked themselves up into a war frenzy and attacked the Chinese. The Chinese, who don’t do woofing, made no boasts, tried smoothing things over, and when that failed, quietly flattened the Indian army. It was a rout: mustaches and swaggersticks sprinting downhill so fast the snow hadn’t yet melted on their helmets when they hit 120-degree Delhi. After that, the Indians decided they’d stick to picking on someone less than half their own size: the Pakistanis.”

Listen and learn. The War Nerd once again proves he is the world’s only real War Poet!

Gary speaks shit sometimes,but he’s OK on the general picture – hardware alone doesn’t do anything.It’s the men who do the fighting killing and dying.It’s just like in Chechen war I – Russian forces hardly knew what they were fighting for,and domestic media was pouring TONS of BS on them.Hence the result.I really doubt that Indians and Pakistanians have the reason for a nuclear\full-scale conventional war now,and that’s been ascertained by comments here.

And..there could be different,more *polite* ways of saying what Brecher does say in his articles,but Brecher’s choice of vocabulary is one of the reasons people read this blog.