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		<title>By: Ram2009</title>
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		<dc:creator>Ram2009</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sun, 11 Oct 2009 08:12:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You are no doubt referring to Jeremy Page, who writes articles from somewhere in SE Asia after having been ejected unceremoniously from the airport.  The British behaviour in Kandy from 1815 - 1818 is not something that is taught to the British kids.  Jeremy and some politicians in Britain are of the same mindset as the 1815 crowd, and would be well advised to read about that bit of history.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You are no doubt referring to Jeremy Page, who writes articles from somewhere in SE Asia after having been ejected unceremoniously from the airport.  The British behaviour in Kandy from 1815 - 1818 is not something that is taught to the British kids.  Jeremy and some politicians in Britain are of the same mindset as the 1815 crowd, and would be well advised to read about that bit of history.</p>
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		<title>By: CrazySetting</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazySetting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:14:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>119. Random Englander  &#124;  September 1st, 2009 at 5:56 am

"Who says the English don’t know about our murderous past? "


The people who suffered and still suffer do.


"Who says we go around acting all high and mighty? "


Hmz, like lecturing Sri Lanka? Milliband and Brown trying to save your Tamil terrorist pets? (He flew in personally to have the whole leadership flown to safety). After all Tamils have been your loyal hit force against those nasty Buddhists who refuse to bow to the Queen.

Their terrorist networks and money for their war campaign against the Sinhalese comes right out of Her Majesties Government (and subsidiaries e.g. Canada, Australia etc). Every suicide bomb, train bomb, bus bomb, destruction of Buddhist temples and people since the 70s has been planned and materials provided for by Tamils given shelter in Britain. 

Continuing the policy of oppression mentioned in this article, while pretending to be "Mr. Neutral"!!

When the Sinhalese defend themselves from the violence you are perpetrating against them you lecture them on Human Rights!


"I’ve always found England to be very apologetic about our past. So you found one asshole in denial who says otherwise, big deal. Most are aware of what we did."


Then why do you lecture Sri Lanka still?


"If we criticize America now, that makes sense, as you are going around killing people (though hopefully with a president swap that will change).
"

Hypocrisy again! How can you citizen them when you tag along with them ever they go? Trying to "re-live" the good 'ole days of ruining er "running" the world and have every one bow at your feet again? Must feel good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>119. Random Englander  |  September 1st, 2009 at 5:56 am</p>
<p>&#8220;Who says the English don’t know about our murderous past? &#8221;</p>
<p>The people who suffered and still suffer do.</p>
<p>&#8220;Who says we go around acting all high and mighty? &#8221;</p>
<p>Hmz, like lecturing Sri Lanka? Milliband and Brown trying to save your Tamil terrorist pets? (He flew in personally to have the whole leadership flown to safety). After all Tamils have been your loyal hit force against those nasty Buddhists who refuse to bow to the Queen.</p>
<p>Their terrorist networks and money for their war campaign against the Sinhalese comes right out of Her Majesties Government (and subsidiaries e.g. Canada, Australia etc). Every suicide bomb, train bomb, bus bomb, destruction of Buddhist temples and people since the 70s has been planned and materials provided for by Tamils given shelter in Britain. </p>
<p>Continuing the policy of oppression mentioned in this article, while pretending to be &#8220;Mr. Neutral&#8221;!!</p>
<p>When the Sinhalese defend themselves from the violence you are perpetrating against them you lecture them on Human Rights!</p>
<p>&#8220;I’ve always found England to be very apologetic about our past. So you found one asshole in denial who says otherwise, big deal. Most are aware of what we did.&#8221;</p>
<p>Then why do you lecture Sri Lanka still?</p>
<p>&#8220;If we criticize America now, that makes sense, as you are going around killing people (though hopefully with a president swap that will change).<br />
&#8221;</p>
<p>Hypocrisy again! How can you citizen them when you tag along with them ever they go? Trying to &#8220;re-live&#8221; the good &#8216;ole days of ruining er &#8220;running&#8221; the world and have every one bow at your feet again? Must feel good.</p>
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		<title>By: CrazySetting</title>
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		<dc:creator>CrazySetting</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Sep 2009 10:11:20 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Random Englander  &#124;  September 1st, 2009 at 5:56 am



The people who suffered and still suffer do.



Hmz, like lecturing Sri Lanka? Milliband and Brown trying to save your Tamil terrorist pets? (He flew in personally to have the whole leadership flown to safety). After all Tamils have been your loyal hit force against those nasty Buddhists who refuse to bow to the Queen.

Their terrorist networks and money for their war campaign against the Sinhalese comes right out of Her Majesties Government (and subsidiaries e.g. Canada, Australia etc). Every suicide bomb, train bomb, bus bomb, destruction of Buddhist temples and people since the 70s has been planned and materials provided for by Tamils given shelter in Britain. 

Continuing the policy of oppression mentioned in this article, while pretending to be "Mr. Neutral"!!

When the Sinhalese defend themselves from the violence you are perpetrating against them you lecture them on Human Rights!



Then why do you lecture Sri Lanka still?




Hypocrisy again! How can you citizen them when you tag along with them ever they go? Trying to "re-live" the good 'ole days of ruining er "running" the world and have every one bow at your feet again? Must feel good.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Random Englander  |  September 1st, 2009 at 5:56 am</p>
<p>The people who suffered and still suffer do.</p>
<p>Hmz, like lecturing Sri Lanka? Milliband and Brown trying to save your Tamil terrorist pets? (He flew in personally to have the whole leadership flown to safety). After all Tamils have been your loyal hit force against those nasty Buddhists who refuse to bow to the Queen.</p>
<p>Their terrorist networks and money for their war campaign against the Sinhalese comes right out of Her Majesties Government (and subsidiaries e.g. Canada, Australia etc). Every suicide bomb, train bomb, bus bomb, destruction of Buddhist temples and people since the 70s has been planned and materials provided for by Tamils given shelter in Britain. </p>
<p>Continuing the policy of oppression mentioned in this article, while pretending to be &#8220;Mr. Neutral&#8221;!!</p>
<p>When the Sinhalese defend themselves from the violence you are perpetrating against them you lecture them on Human Rights!</p>
<p>Then why do you lecture Sri Lanka still?</p>
<p>Hypocrisy again! How can you citizen them when you tag along with them ever they go? Trying to &#8220;re-live&#8221; the good &#8216;ole days of ruining er &#8220;running&#8221; the world and have every one bow at your feet again? Must feel good.</p>
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		<title>By: Random Englander</title>
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		<dc:creator>Random Englander</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Sep 2009 13:56:56 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Who says the English don't know about our murderous past? Who says we go around acting all high and mighty? I've always found England to be very apologetic about our past. So you found one asshole in denial who says otherwise, big deal. Most are aware of what we did. If we criticize America now, that makes sense, as you are going around killing people (though hopefully with a president swap that will change).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Who says the English don&#8217;t know about our murderous past? Who says we go around acting all high and mighty? I&#8217;ve always found England to be very apologetic about our past. So you found one asshole in denial who says otherwise, big deal. Most are aware of what we did. If we criticize America now, that makes sense, as you are going around killing people (though hopefully with a president swap that will change).</p>
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		<title>By: MD</title>
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		<dc:creator>MD</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 29 Jun 2009 23:11:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>America should never forget that in a fight they should always have a Brit or Colonial on their side - especially Brits who are just tough, for them a good night out is 10 pints, a curry and a fight - not necessarily in that order!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>America should never forget that in a fight they should always have a Brit or Colonial on their side - especially Brits who are just tough, for them a good night out is 10 pints, a curry and a fight - not necessarily in that order!</p>
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		<title>By: Athammaus</title>
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		<dc:creator>Athammaus</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 23 Jun 2009 13:39:16 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>"History’s so much simpler, more elegant and exciting if premises like “humans are scum” sit right under the surface. "

Like much of H. P. Lovecraft's writing</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8220;History’s so much simpler, more elegant and exciting if premises like “humans are scum” sit right under the surface. &#8221;</p>
<p>Like much of H. P. Lovecraft&#8217;s writing</p>
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		<title>By: Expat in BY</title>
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		<dc:creator>Expat in BY</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 21:27:45 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Regarding comment...
103. Well Duh!

Sorry I didn't read your comment sooner. I'm very familiar with both the standard of living in both Ukraine and Belarus, and I really have to correct you - Belarus' standard of living, at least in this day and age, sucks compared to Ukraine's.

Granted, the living is more peaceful in Belarus than in Ukraine (whenever someone asks me how I like living here, that is the polite answer I give them). I wouldn't expect to be robbed here as I was in Kiev. But consumer goods are vastly better in Kiev than in Minsk. Entertainment options are more numerous (though that could be a function of population: 2 million in Minsk vs. 3 million in Kiev). And healthcare is at least trying to go post-Soviet south of the border; I fear ever having to use the local hospital here in Belarus, Belgostrakh coverage or not.

The comparison between the number of whores from Ukraine and from Belarus I have no reliable statistics on. Granted Ukraine has a greater reputation for providing "paid companionship" but they also have five times the amount of population. Despite Belarus being a police state, it still surprises me when leaving Minsk to see the eye-candy hitchhikers searching for "a ride"; they seem to vanish about 30 minutes out of the city.

So as to the argument that democracy messes up a standard of living based on the results of Belarus and Ukraine, I'd say that there is a gross problem with your "Western Data". Also you ignore the fact that Ukraine will continue to get Western attention and investors (whenever it is the economy will recover) in part because of the open non-visa regime it has with the EU and western countries (most of this openness and resulting Western support is post-Kuchma/Orange Revolution). Belarus might get the same, but only if it follows the EU's standards for an "open" society. And the way Lukashenko has been playing this in the press, it's hard to say whether he will allow that to happen, ever (Russian milk boycott or not).

As with any of the former Soviet states, in both Ukraine and Belarus it's not really about whether you are pro-Moscow or pro-West. It's about keeping your turf intact. That's the way it is in Georgia, in Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics, or any of the whole lot. 

That Russia (more specifically Putin) hasn't learned to play with this any better than it has shows it to be a rank amateur compared to the British in India about 150 years ago. But maybe I'm being unfair - Russia has only had sober leadership for the past nine years. What was the length of time between the Battle of Plessy and the advent of the British Raj?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Regarding comment&#8230;<br />
103. Well Duh!</p>
<p>Sorry I didn&#8217;t read your comment sooner. I&#8217;m very familiar with both the standard of living in both Ukraine and Belarus, and I really have to correct you - Belarus&#8217; standard of living, at least in this day and age, sucks compared to Ukraine&#8217;s.</p>
<p>Granted, the living is more peaceful in Belarus than in Ukraine (whenever someone asks me how I like living here, that is the polite answer I give them). I wouldn&#8217;t expect to be robbed here as I was in Kiev. But consumer goods are vastly better in Kiev than in Minsk. Entertainment options are more numerous (though that could be a function of population: 2 million in Minsk vs. 3 million in Kiev). And healthcare is at least trying to go post-Soviet south of the border; I fear ever having to use the local hospital here in Belarus, Belgostrakh coverage or not.</p>
<p>The comparison between the number of whores from Ukraine and from Belarus I have no reliable statistics on. Granted Ukraine has a greater reputation for providing &#8220;paid companionship&#8221; but they also have five times the amount of population. Despite Belarus being a police state, it still surprises me when leaving Minsk to see the eye-candy hitchhikers searching for &#8220;a ride&#8221;; they seem to vanish about 30 minutes out of the city.</p>
<p>So as to the argument that democracy messes up a standard of living based on the results of Belarus and Ukraine, I&#8217;d say that there is a gross problem with your &#8220;Western Data&#8221;. Also you ignore the fact that Ukraine will continue to get Western attention and investors (whenever it is the economy will recover) in part because of the open non-visa regime it has with the EU and western countries (most of this openness and resulting Western support is post-Kuchma/Orange Revolution). Belarus might get the same, but only if it follows the EU&#8217;s standards for an &#8220;open&#8221; society. And the way Lukashenko has been playing this in the press, it&#8217;s hard to say whether he will allow that to happen, ever (Russian milk boycott or not).</p>
<p>As with any of the former Soviet states, in both Ukraine and Belarus it&#8217;s not really about whether you are pro-Moscow or pro-West. It&#8217;s about keeping your turf intact. That&#8217;s the way it is in Georgia, in Kyrgyzstan, Ukraine, Belarus, the Baltics, or any of the whole lot. </p>
<p>That Russia (more specifically Putin) hasn&#8217;t learned to play with this any better than it has shows it to be a rank amateur compared to the British in India about 150 years ago. But maybe I&#8217;m being unfair - Russia has only had sober leadership for the past nine years. What was the length of time between the Battle of Plessy and the advent of the British Raj?</p>
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		<title>By: slaqdog</title>
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		<dc:creator>slaqdog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 13 Jun 2009 18:49:10 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think Gary you are a fresno fool if you think that the brits believe their own bullshit, well some do but most simply don't care ; the brits know full well how the empire was won and kept:the tactic they are using is the classic magicians trick of "look over there!".With the UK mired in recession its good to point at other people and point out their bad habits; its a classic distraction-"you think we are bad-look at those guys!"
This tactic to whip up indignation over someone else's wrong doing worked very well in the US; while the banks were busy stealing everyones money the media was quite happy to chorus "look over there its osama bin laden" (he has simply gotta still be on the cia payroll) while selling ridiculously overpriced houses and shares. 
The hypocracy of the brits? Yes worth pointing out ALL empires do the same "this is gonna hurt but we are doing it for your own good" The US are peddling the same old line in Iraq. 
"bullshit you can believe in" to misquote the man in the white house.
I also love the fact that the times of london still has this ability to make nerds splutter indignantly into their cheerios-bullshit you can believe in indeed.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think Gary you are a fresno fool if you think that the brits believe their own bullshit, well some do but most simply don&#8217;t care ; the brits know full well how the empire was won and kept:the tactic they are using is the classic magicians trick of &#8220;look over there!&#8221;.With the UK mired in recession its good to point at other people and point out their bad habits; its a classic distraction-&#8221;you think we are bad-look at those guys!&#8221;<br />
This tactic to whip up indignation over someone else&#8217;s wrong doing worked very well in the US; while the banks were busy stealing everyones money the media was quite happy to chorus &#8220;look over there its osama bin laden&#8221; (he has simply gotta still be on the cia payroll) while selling ridiculously overpriced houses and shares.<br />
The hypocracy of the brits? Yes worth pointing out ALL empires do the same &#8220;this is gonna hurt but we are doing it for your own good&#8221; The US are peddling the same old line in Iraq.<br />
&#8220;bullshit you can believe in&#8221; to misquote the man in the white house.<br />
I also love the fact that the times of london still has this ability to make nerds splutter indignantly into their cheerios-bullshit you can believe in indeed.</p>
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		<title>By: aleke</title>
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		<dc:creator>aleke</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 12:16:02 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>@G. Tingey 

Awwwwww, did someone strike a nerve? The Brits were the most murderous bunch of scum on earth and you know it. The Americans are just trying to (half-assedly) follow their model. Hell, they even use the same economic weapons the Brits did in their heyday, except now they're more formal institutions and have catchy names (WTO, World Bank, IMF). Or does this all hurt too much? Hurt enough to make you misuse a simple word like "hypocrite". Here here, have a nice little movie to dry those tears! http://www.amazon.com/Notting-Hill-Collectors-Hugh-Grant/dp/B000023VTP/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd&amp;qid=1244722466&amp;sr=8-6</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>@G. Tingey </p>
<p>Awwwwww, did someone strike a nerve? The Brits were the most murderous bunch of scum on earth and you know it. The Americans are just trying to (half-assedly) follow their model. Hell, they even use the same economic weapons the Brits did in their heyday, except now they&#8217;re more formal institutions and have catchy names (WTO, World Bank, IMF). Or does this all hurt too much? Hurt enough to make you misuse a simple word like &#8220;hypocrite&#8221;. Here here, have a nice little movie to dry those tears! <a href="http://www.amazon.com/Notting-Hill-Collectors-Hugh-Grant/dp/B000023VTP/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd&amp;qid=1244722466&amp;sr=8-6" rel="nofollow">http://www.amazon.com/Notting-Hill-Collectors-Hugh-Grant/dp/B000023VTP/ref=sr_1_6?ie=UTF8&amp;s=dvd&amp;qid=1244722466&amp;sr=8-6</a></p>
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		<title>By: G. Tingey</title>
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		<dc:creator>G. Tingey</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 11 Jun 2009 06:51:46 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I repeat, this is spiteful and wrong whining by a very innaccurate reporter .....
Let's investigate US colonialism shall we?
And its cruel and exploitative model.
I don't mean straightforward "owning" as in Panama, or the Philippines, where some semblance of a rule of law usually obtained, but those colonies where the US guvmint backed up corrupt and cruel companies.
Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicuragua, Costa Rica, plus large swathes of S. America.
AND, it is STILL happening, as recently in Bhopal, or right now in Peru (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8081907.stm)
Oh, and how many times has the US interfered in and corrupted Cuba?  Which makes one realise just how Fidel, dictator and tyrant that he is, had some large measure of support from a population thoroughly distressed by decades of US-backed oppression - does no-one remember just how nasty the Batista regime was, really?
There, and all across Central America, criminal hit-squads were sent in to torture and kill and oppress any who dared to resist, with no appeal to laws.
I call hypocrite upon the author.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I repeat, this is spiteful and wrong whining by a very innaccurate reporter &#8230;..<br />
Let&#8217;s investigate US colonialism shall we?<br />
And its cruel and exploitative model.<br />
I don&#8217;t mean straightforward &#8220;owning&#8221; as in Panama, or the Philippines, where some semblance of a rule of law usually obtained, but those colonies where the US guvmint backed up corrupt and cruel companies.<br />
Mexico, El Salvador, Honduras, Nicuragua, Costa Rica, plus large swathes of S. America.<br />
AND, it is STILL happening, as recently in Bhopal, or right now in Peru (http://news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/business/8081907.stm)<br />
Oh, and how many times has the US interfered in and corrupted Cuba?  Which makes one realise just how Fidel, dictator and tyrant that he is, had some large measure of support from a population thoroughly distressed by decades of US-backed oppression - does no-one remember just how nasty the Batista regime was, really?<br />
There, and all across Central America, criminal hit-squads were sent in to torture and kill and oppress any who dared to resist, with no appeal to laws.<br />
I call hypocrite upon the author.</p>
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