“Going Joe Stack!” American Suicide-Insurgent’s Anti-Big Business Last Words: “Capitalist Creed: From each according to his gullibility, to each according to his greed”

What You Should Know / February 18, 2010

www.statesman.com -- Why is it that a handful of thugs and plunderers can commit unthinkable atrocities (and in the case of the GM executives, for scores of years) and when it’s time for their gravy train to crash under the weight of their gluttony and overwhelming stupidity, the force of the full federal government has no difficulty coming to their aid within days if not hours? Yet at the same time, the joke we call the American medical system, including the drug and insurance companies, are murdering tens of thousands of people a year and stealing from the corpses and victims they cripple, and this country’s leaders don’t see this as important as bailing out a few of their vile, rich cronies. Yet, the political “representatives” (thieves, liars, and self-serving scumbags is far more accurate) have endless time to sit around for year after year and debate the state of the “terrible health care problem”. It’s clear they see no crisis as long as the dead people don’t get in the way of their corporate profits rolling in.

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1. Carlos | February 18th, 2010 at 2:14 pm
Shocker that I’m too much of a coward to deal with Joe Stack’s message. So here’s my cowardly reply: Stack’s screed was illogical and desperate. He claims to have lost a lot of money, been treated unfairly, had to liquidate assets, blah, blah, blah, yet this guy who is days from the pauper’s house owns a fucking airplane. Stack, you are a fucking nutjob. Blame your problems on the IRS, but your idiocy is the root cause. Glad you tried to take out a bunch of innocents just living paycheck to paycheck to prove your point. Enjoy your stay in Hell with your comrade in stupidity, Tim McVeigh.
2. Joe Stack | February 18th, 2010 at 5:09 pm
Hey guy, you don’t know what I’ve had to endure. Sure I got a college education, flying lessons, etc.. but those taxes were crushing.
Now if you’ll excuse me, I have a relay race scheduled with Michael Jackson and Jerry Falwel and I don’t need internet harassment to hinder me when I’m running across burning coals.
3. proletariat | February 18th, 2010 at 5:53 pm
Stack might have been a bit crazy (Which is why he crashed an airplane into an office building instead of educating, organizing and then agitating) but his message is something that should resonate with all of us.
Hopefully, we’ll be smart enough to use truck bombs, though. More damage, and you live to fight another day.
4. Joe Stack's Financial Advisor | February 18th, 2010 at 9:08 pm
Hey Joe, sorry we dropped the ball on that appeal we had pending with the IRS buddy. Should have called Tax Masters like I recommended.
Glad to see you still had your airplane after the asset seizure though! Looks like you might have overdone it just a tad however with your message…
Mr. Carlos, I see you have some sort of relationship with Mr. Stack; might you be interested in some debt swap derivative products I have to offer? Good news on these puppies: NO TAXES. Mr. Stack was heavily invested in them and he sure showed the IRS what’s what!
5. BlottoBonVismarck | February 18th, 2010 at 11:20 pm
#3. If you care to take advice from an expert — a dead expert naturally enough, — you might do better with a rifle. If you take my advice “there’s always Australia.” Firing popguns at behemoths doesn’t have a long life expectancy.
At least that is what Tim McVeigh is reported to have said as he contemplated the big-needle-in-the-ass-while-strapped-to-a-gurney.
Though supposedly he was thinking of the Barrett Light 50. Because nothing says ‘flesh wound’ like a 50 cal? Gratuitous .50 cal footage ‘test firing’ footage – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TOZoYIoyjuM
Some people think McVeigh was a nutcase. But he was demonized very heavily.
There was a _lot_ more to the story than most people ever heard. Gore Vidal for one thought that he had a mind good enough to make a good constitutional lawyer, fwiw. The Meaning of Timothy McVeigh – Gore Vidal – Vanity Fair – September 2001 –
http://www.isebrand.com/Gore_Vidal_McVeigh_2001.htm
GV, he says, hates the government as much as the militia men of Montana. But GV would have used the courts. Fat lot of good that would have done. Just as well he didn’t have to. He would certainly have got a Federalist stooge judge — like the Supremes, but more rabidly right wing? — if Rarl Kove was still doing his pilot fish impression on the ass of the GOP shark.
“It all goes for taxes and has done for fifty years.” “Now that we out of the Empire business because we are bankrupt, there is only one enemy for this, a permanent wartime government.” – Gore Vidal with Patt Morrisson, 1995 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L54H8HUNZZs#t=06m39s
_Five_ people involved – http://www.commondreams.org/headlines01/0817-04.htm
6. BlottoBonVismarck | February 18th, 2010 at 11:21 pm
GOING JOE STACK
Not recommended. Bad for your health, never mind your victims.
AUSTRALIA
In the old days, when Britain ruled the world and had an Empire, one cynical Brit Aristo commented that he could never understand someone committing suicide “because there was always Australia!” Australia, where wayward younger sons and the black sheep of the family were sent. There to fit in with the convicts and their descendants. Lovely country today, we hasten to add. If too damn hot.
Today? “You’ll all be welcome in Virginia.” ER, Europe – the dastardly Colin Firth – Shakespeare in Love – @2:06 – http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Bgjyk253WV8#t=02m06s
7. Plamen Petkov | February 19th, 2010 at 12:39 am
Carlos, you shouldn’t really talk BEFORE all the facts are in. Makes you appear like a fool.
Turns out the plane wasn’t his: he stole it.
I agree with Stack on principle; the IRS is a tool to strip people of their money so the military industrial complex can have the trillions to spend “fighting” fanthom imaginary Ali Queda when it facts it’s the same old same old fight over natural resources.
What’s interesting is the coincidence again: lame brain Biden did say a few weeks ago USA will be facing domestic “terrorism” Watch how Stack will be made into a domestic terrorist case and I wont be a bit surprised if even he had ties with Ali Queda and even met with Bin Alladin too last month!
8. Craig Cobb | February 19th, 2010 at 12:58 am
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9. Allen | February 19th, 2010 at 4:12 am
Here at last is the kind of American “hero” the exiled has ostensibly desired to see for some time — articulate and desperately sane, striking out with maddening recklessness as only the manifestation of the blatantly necessary. Finally the obvious, the Real: actual action.
So it’s interesting to see people recoiling here … You couldn’t ask for a more concise statement of the Exiled’s ethos of late than the above blurb. I mean it’s a genius piece of rhetoric.
With that said, suicide attacking an IRS office, not to mention its hapless employees, is amongst the least useful uses of such commitment and energy. The guy had the wit to write a half decent final testament (minus the sometimes idiosyncratic ramblings about his personal history), but didn’t stop to think creatively about the true potential of someone who decides they have nothing left to lose —
10. Diet Coke | February 19th, 2010 at 8:03 am
Pretty sure his beef was with the government, not business. Which is why he attacked the government for ruining his life.
Say what you will about losers, you can’t disrespect a suicide bomber. People will no more understand Joe Stack than they understood Mohamed Atta.
11. Got War Crimes? | February 19th, 2010 at 1:05 pm
Americans are PATHETIC assholes.
Instead of PRAISING the actions of someone who decided to FIGHT BACK against your criminally insane federal government, YOU ball-less dipshits choose instead to spout wise-cracks and inane commentary.
For example, my dear indentured servants, knowing how to FLY an airplane is NOT the same as OWNING one. Just like most of you deadbeats don’t OWN the house you’re living in ..the BANK DOES!
Joe Stack WAS NOT complaining about “what he owed the IRS” but rather protesting against a system wherein the odds are decidedly stacked AGAINST the average citizen. But you shitheads have your heads so FAR up your own asses that you DESERVE to be raped by the likes of Goldman Sachs.
Over & over & over again.
Hey, I bet you people even LIKE it by now.
12. dwayne chandler | February 19th, 2010 at 1:22 pm
Wow, look at how the fire caused
by the crash of a small Piper
PA 28 thoroughly gutted that
IRS building.
Has it completely collapsed yet,
causing a rampaging pyroclastic
surge in the process?
Got War Crimes? is correct, the
majority of you are pathetic
assholes and enslaved cowards.
Most sincerely, Dwayne Chandler.
13. Cobblers | February 19th, 2010 at 1:38 pm
@ Allen.
I stopped by here earlier in the day and looked at the four comments and thought: why is the Exile even bothering? The mother of Carlos’s children just lifted her head from a puddle of drool.
Already the immune system of Empire has disgorged a quantity of phagocytes to clean up the mess and pronounce Joe Stack “insane” because there couldn’t possibly be another explanation of why he did what he did.
Dumb fucks. Let me tell you. Empire has been here before. It’s the twilight of the Roman Empire. Taxes increase massively to fund foreign wars and domestic problems. On the periphery, hard-pressed farmers, unwilling to bow to such punishing taxation, abandon their land and melt away into the hinterlands.
They were lucky. In 21st Century America, there’s nowhere to go. They have cameras. And computer. And jackals like Carlos.
14. Aaron | February 19th, 2010 at 4:20 pm
Stack was nothing but a God damned coward who ran out and left his wife and kid homeless and holding the bag for all the bills he’d run up. Don’t fucking babble all this horseshit about oh look at him he’s fighting the man RIGHT ON, because that’s not him. And if it is, the guy was fucking incompetent anyway, so why fellate his corpse like this?
15. Got War Crimes? | February 19th, 2010 at 5:21 pm
I was just listening to a speech given by New Jersey Judge Andrew Napolitano on the topic of Natural Rights and the U.S. Constitution.
In his speech he states, as one of our natural rights; “IT IS THE *DUTY* OF THE PEOPLE TO ALTER OR ABOLISH A GOVERNMENT THAT VIOLATES OUR RIGHTS”. Regarding the right to ‘bear arms’, he goes on to say that we also have the natural “RIGHT TO USE THAT GUN *ON THE GOVERNMENT* IF IT STEALS OUR FREEDOMS OR IF IT’S TAKEN OVER BY A TYRANT”.
He’s quoting Thomas Jefferson BTW and NOT gone loony tunes.
I know most Americans don’t know these things, busy as you are holding a Ding Dong with one hand and a bowl of Doritos in the other while trying to masturbate at the same time. And I can understand how learning all these boring things about ‘rights’ (yawn!)natural or not can really cut into your ‘American Idol’ TV time too.
Dipshits.
MY only ‘criticism’ of Joe Stack would be that he SHOULDN’T HAVE BOTHERED. He should have just committed TAX FRAUD like any other ‘decent’ American and then fled to Brazil to live the good life forever after.
FUCK making a personal sacrificial gesture in order to try to inspire a well-deserved and MUCH OVERDO revolt.
Sheep don’t appreciate anything other than a nice, healthy green lawn to munch on while the farmer has his way with them. And YES, that WAS another anal reference.
We now return you to your complete Economic & Moral collapse, there will be no further commercial interruptions.
16. jim | February 19th, 2010 at 9:13 pm
A predictable crime, & predictable reactions.
“Watch how Stack will be made into a domestic terrorist case”
FAIL. The USG immediately classified this as a criminal act & not as terrorism.
A hero? Please explain what exactly is heroic about burning down your family’s home & then suiciding yourself while killing innocent civilians – that strikes me as being pretty damn cowardly, no matter how “noble” one’s rationalizations for doing it.
Gosh, such was the sheer fascism of the IRS that the poor guy even had to SELL HIS PIANO? Move over, Rosa Parks!
Would-be radicals circlejerking over “The Propaganda Of The Deed” is such a tired juvenile load of horseshit, & it has been for a very long time … but it’s a great way to justify acting out pubescent hero-fantasies (AKA being a violent asshole on everyone else’s dime), not to mention an awesome excuse for avoiding the laborious & frustrating work of creating real lasting improvements.
Don’t fix a defective system, because approaching problems like an adult takes way too long & doesn’t involve anything blowing up – SMASH IT! Anarchy is way kewl – heck, just ask the Somalis!