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The Mexican Drug War / January 5, 2010

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OK, so after taking some time off, courtesy of me moving back to the fucking stone age to a house with no internet or cable, I’m going to try and write on a little more regular basis. This time, I’m not going to tell you about narco-trafficking activities in some far-away Mexican city, but something a little more personal and close-to-home for some of my American readers.

So I give you: the immigration rant.

I find it ironic that Americans are so sensitive about immigration, considering they’re descendants of immigrants as well, all the way to John Smith, who by all accounts was British, I think–let’s leave it at European. Where do you think your ancestors came from? They certainly didn’t descend into the New World from the heavens.

So you don’t like to think of your darker-skinned cousins? God forbid your ancestors go back to Pocahontas´ side of the family, right? Natives are like the awkward relative nobody talks about in the big American family. That’s fine by me.

Americans have short memories, especially when it comes to your border territories, the ones most plagued by illegal immigration problems. They were once Mexican sovereign territories. Take Tejas, the original name of your “iconic American” Lone Star State. Sure, you took it fair and square, after fomenting a war and then leading an invasion deep into Mexico.

You’re probably expecting me to bitch and moan and whine about American aggression and all that. No, not me. The reason I don’t get worried or worked up about immigration is because I know my team will eventually win, period. It’ll take some time, sure. But there can be no doubt about the final outcome.

Call it what you will: slow invasion, irony, Aztlán, whatever. The reality is that those states will again be filled with Mexicans, and it won’t happen because of some Chicano call to the homeland but rather something more simple, and much older. The best part is, Americans know deep down inside that they can’t win this war. It’s doomed to defeat, just like the rest of America’s occupations.

We’ll be using the oldest, greatest military strategy known to man, what the War Nerd calls the “War of the Babies.” Aka: population growth. That’s right, we’ll smother you with our masses.

There are only two ways to effectively fight this WMD. The most effective one is, you guessed it, genocide. Not that you’d ever think of doing that, right? I mean, we’re all buddies here, right? If you killed us, who’d make your sandwiches or pick your lettuce? You still want your weed, right? And your meth and smack, too? Didn’t your wife want to re-tile the kitchen? Anything you need we got, and if we don’t have it we can get it for you, güero. No problemo, just name it.

And there you have it, the root of all evils (to some anyway), the reason that so many of my paisanos leave their homes and risk their lives trying to cross the border: money. It’s not like we do it because we love the place so much. Believe me, Mexicans don’t dream about leaving their country for Detroit or something. It’s just that the US is the richest country in the world, or at least the closest rich country. No matter how hard you try to send us back, more will keep coming. As long as the money is there.

That’s why your crazy vigilante groups talk about this slow invasion coming from Mexico. Because that’s what it looks like, which it is–but not the way these ignorant hicks think it is. It’s more like the Moroccans marching into the Spanish Sahara than Mexico’s version of the Trojan Horse, the Trojan Burro.

The beauty of this one is that immigrants are completely ignorant about the fact that they’re invaders. Is it an invasion if nobody told the invaders they were invading? Either way, we’re still gonna take over.

So unless you’re gonna carpet us with nukes or get all methodical and Auschwitz on us, the only other way you can win is to become as poor as Mexico, which, now that I think about it, is looking like a real possibility. I mean, I can’t believe your old people are starting to move to Mexico in large numbers because we are the land of free medical opportunities for their sorry wrinkled asses. I must admit, your shitty economic situation has me wondering about Mexico’s ability to meet our military aims. What a depressing way to win.

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  • 1. mikey  |  January 5th, 2010 at 10:46 am

    Do something about the water and we’ll all move to Mexico. You guys are more than welcome to freeze in Chicago.

  • 2. angela  |  January 5th, 2010 at 10:47 am

    For any immigrant haters out there, I recommend watching Sin Nombre. It gives great insight to the immigrant experience.
    The U.S. would be nothing without Mariachis and Pinatas.

  • 3. franc black  |  January 5th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Shame on you for spouting off these inconvenient truths!
    What are you trying to do, expose the systemic racism of Manifest Destiny?
    Leave our whitey elites in peace for a change.

  • 4. Diet Coke  |  January 5th, 2010 at 11:33 am

    Nice one Dolan but the real Pancho writes with lots of grammatical errors only a latino would make.

  • 5. Carlos  |  January 5th, 2010 at 11:34 am

    If we Americans are hypocrites, the so is Hannah Montana. He and is countrymen treat Guatemalans, Hondurans, El Salvadorans, and the rest of Central America as badly or worse than Americans treat Mexicans and Central Americans. So get off your high horse, Hannah, and realize that most countries don’t care for illegal immigrants, inlcuding that shithole drug battlefield known as Mexico.

  • 6. wYSe Guy  |  January 5th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    I’m also wondering which manifestation of the war nerd (the so called “Gary Brecher”) wrote this. Is it the whiny anti-brit Dolan version, or the high of meth-over-compensating-in-pretending-to-be-fat-Ames version?

    I’ll go with the whiny Dolan over the more threatening Ames on this bet.

  • 7. Alex_C  |  January 5th, 2010 at 2:04 pm

    Read Steve Sailor (if he’s still alive) at iSteve dot com, the US will just become like the rest of the Americas, a white elite with the white underclass interbreeding with the indios, so we’ll have a proper skin color encoded caste system like any proper Empire does.

    Obama and Condaleeza etc are just temporary blips.

    I write this as a member of the white working class with just a bit of Indio myself, whether I personally want this to happen doesn’t matter, and myself, I don’t care.

    Another thing I want to mention is what I saw up in Prescott Arizona when I was up there for a year, in 2008. The “Mexicans” went home. This is because they’d done the math and realized they need at least $10 an hour for working to make sense, and if they couldn’t get it they’re better off returning to family and farm back in the old country. Us whities can’t do that, so up there, a white will work for $3 an hour, anything really.

    I’m kinda old, but young enough to have grown up with affirmative action and all that, and all my life, reality has been: If you’re white, you’re gonna work harder for less pay, and better smile while you do it. Thus, I don’t resent nonwhites for underpricing me, they earn more! I’m the one who has to work against a racial barrier – I’ll work harder for less but a lot of workplaces don’t want a whitie.

    I admire the “Mexicans” in the US because I know they worked against this same kind of barrier in the past, and look what it’s done for them – they’re stronger. The families are more likely to stick together, Mom’s more likely to stay at home and manage the budget, frankly these folks have more discretionary income than my own folks, because they know how to live cheaper.

    When it comes down to it, we humans are all the same species, with some variations. I grew up in Hawaii – my skin is NOT suited to that climate. I dunno how I handled it as a kid, I’ve been back and that sun kills me. I’m about the right skin color for the latitude I live in now, the SF Bay Area, and northwards.

    With an 1850s level of tech and medicine, we whities aren’t going to last in say, Hawaii or Mexico etc. Darker skinned folks aren’t going to do well in the northern latitudes.

    Which means there are places on this Earth for all of us.

  • 8. Alex_C  |  January 5th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    Oh dear, I’ve re-read this and the author must still think it’s 2005.

    The reason I saw a huge part of the “Mexicans” leave the Prescott AZ area was NO JOBS.

    That’s what’s happening now, the jobs are going away. And us gringos are gonna happily outwork and underprice you guys because we don’t have a home country to run to – this is our home country now.

    Think whites won’t live 4 to a studio apartment? I’ve seen it. You ought to see the “beaner special” abandoned trailer I live in, I consider it first-class accomodations.

    Give it a few more years, for the lard on most of us to get used up, and for a bunch of us who are Nintendo nuts to learn a bit of farming, your biggest problem is going to be keeping us out of Mexico and parts south.

    There’s a huge frugality movement just starting to get its feet under it in the US, and for many of us, $10 a day would be riches. Just as a starter for your mental calculations, Food Stamps awards $150 to $200 a month to an individual and we have MILLIONS living on that. Over 50% of those white. Ten bucks a day is quite a lot more.

    I myself made $10 over the last two weeks. Get my street musician skills up and I hope to make that golden $10 a day.

    Believe me, we won’t need you guys to tile our bathrooms, make our drugs, pick our lettuce, and so on.

    That takes away the main lever of your argument.

  • 9. obvious  |  January 5th, 2010 at 3:05 pm

    carlos is an idiot, yet has OCD and thus cannot stop.

    no one said mexico’s treatment of its southern neighbors was anything other than despicable. yet does mexico (if you want to be accurate, the mexican government) deserve its history of quasi-imperialist treatment at the hands of uncle sam? do two wrongs make a right?

    but then you’re the type who doesn’t see the hypocrisy of mistreating latinos while exploiting their labor.

  • 10. Cal  |  January 5th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    I am all for expanded Mexican/Central American immigration. America embrace your shorter, darker future…anything that makes me look more attractive and taller relative to the rest of the male population is welcome !

  • 11. Halop  |  January 5th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    Sorry to tell you Pancho we have the H-bomb equivalent of culture here in the US. I’m speaking as an immigrant myself, albeit one who came here as a child. In two or three generation at the most your “paisanos” will be turned into the same inbred, lard ass, Chevy driving, toothless grinning, church going (not the catholic variety), Limbaugh worshiping, IMMIGRANT HATTING republicans bitchin’ about ‘dem dirty immigrants from southeast Asia or wherever they’ll be coming from by then. When my family came here back in the 70’s all of the white trash we were forced to come in contact with at gov’t offices, doctor’s office waiting rooms and the like came in two varieties “Itayens” and wannabe “Itayens” (Polish, Irish, Greek descent who saw too many Godfather movies.) Nowadays their names are Hernandez, Fernandez and even Montana. They don’t speak any more Spanish than the “Itayens” spoke Italian and their idea of good Mexican food is Taco Bell.

    So I say come one come all, but if you don’t make it to Park Ave. in the first or second generation then your grandchildren will be retiring their cars in the back yard to have something to shoot their shotguns at when drunk. Just like we turned a picturesque word like Montaña into the name of one of the most hickish states in the union Montana we will turn any noble race into SUV driving burger chompers.

  • 12. Allen  |  January 5th, 2010 at 5:25 pm

    wYse Guy is on to something … but if he’s right where is the next War Nerd column already? Are they just pissed off that no one really got the joke?

    Anyway, the argument from history is always a nice rhetorical “preemptive strike” isn’t it? Most Westerners like to argue from history as time-line — as is if all matters of political and historical debate can be solved by figuring out “who started it” … so getting the upper hand there is sure to annoy the faux-righteous hypocrite crowd at least a little.

  • 13. Dammerung  |  January 5th, 2010 at 5:32 pm

    I used to be a racist motherfucker. I was raised by Christian fundies in SoCal and was raised practically from birth to believe that Mexicans were a bunch of cowardly, ugly, smelly, papist, dirty cockroaches. It took me a long time to realize what Mexicans have contributed to American society and to see that if we have any fucking hope at all as a civilization it’s going to come from the work ethic and bravery of Latinos. I’m a blue eyed red headed devil and I welcome California for the Californios – Latino and Anglo alike.

  • 14. Peter  |  January 5th, 2010 at 5:59 pm

    Great article and so true. Mexicans have the right idea about work, life, and the economy, and they happen to have taken a liking to the Americans country.
    Game over.
    The world will go to those who want it badly enough, be they brown, black, or white.

  • 15. Alex_C  |  January 5th, 2010 at 6:09 pm

    What the hell is “immigrant hatting”? Does it involve going around and supplying immigrants with hats, or snatching hats from immigrants as Jack London so entertainingly describes doing in late 1800s San Francisco, keeping himself in fine Stetsons courtesy of Chinese who couldn’t run as fas as him?

    In any case, we’re just in the first stages of the Greatest Depression. No one’s going to be a burger chomper much longer unless it’s dogburger. It’s back to the 1850s or so, folks!

    Which is why I keep saying, maybe I didn’t dumb it down enough, the US isn’t going to be any place for de brown man. Whites, even through right now the DNA is trapped in rather dysfunctional bodies for this generation, are the products of war, famine, migration, war, famine, migration, war ….. run that cycle for a few thousand years. We may not look like much but speaking as a white, I’ve done work you all wouldn’t touch, for pay you’d laugh at, and will again if I get the chance. Wanna see your Uncle Luis get shot by a desperate whitie who wants Luis’s stable-shoveling job? Just be foolish enough to stick around. We may look like those gay tigers in that Las Vegas show, but we’re still tigers. In fact, “Mexicans” don’t scare me, what I really fear in the coming times is my own people.

  • 16. az  |  January 5th, 2010 at 8:02 pm

    Crazy white people: we want to be poorer and working in worse conditions than undocumented Mexicans, and dammit we’ll be proud of it!

  • 17. Alex_C  |  January 5th, 2010 at 8:41 pm

    January – Bingo.

    We don’t have “the old country” to go back to! We’ll have to eat shit and smile. Guess what, my white muchachos, y’all are going to start living in my world, last-hired-first-fired-least-paid. Most of my fellow whites have not lived in the world I have, they’ve still had some of that good ol’ white privilage. I’ve always sounded like an oddball talking about having to work harder for less etc, because unless you’re a non-rich Haole growing up in Hawaii, or EmNEm, you just had no idea. But now we have the Greatest Depression coming on, and it’ll be back to how it’s been for Whitey: The craziest workhorse mofo gets to survive. That’s how we ended up owning Europe and the US, to put it very very simplistically, everyone else was too sane to keep up with the workload and walked out or checked out.

    Blah. If I were browner, I think I’d head South myself.

  • 18. obvious  |  January 5th, 2010 at 8:57 pm

    give it a few more years. as the economic desperation grows, the chances of even worse demagogues rising to power are heightened. sadly legions of ill-educated ‘mericans will all too easily latch onto the xenophobic bandwagon.

  • 19. obvious  |  January 5th, 2010 at 9:00 pm

    god i hate jack london. crappy writer of cheeseball novels. typical of the dumb hillbillies that conquered california whose romanticized notions of life spawned bad disney remakes.

    if you think conditions are bad now. wait until the rest of the world stops accepting the US dollar.

  • 20. Jesus Christ  |  January 5th, 2010 at 11:27 pm

    But there is always ethnic cleansing MPRI did a good job in the Krajina with Operation Storm that can be used, good old fashioned pogroms, depopulation methods like restricting the flow of capital and banking loans into Mexican territory and eliminating welfare benefits, use the drug gangs that the US controls to cause civil war and strife, unleash a bio weapon into the air, etc I think America will do just fine.

  • 21. Alex_C  |  January 6th, 2010 at 12:19 am

    #19 – Well, at least he’s not as bad as Hemingway.

    I have to keep repeating to catapult the propaganda. …. things ARE going to get a lot worse.

  • 22. Peter  |  January 6th, 2010 at 8:28 am

    Awesome! The posts don’t get butchered and rewritten on this column unless the post comes from a dork like me.

  • 23. General Foods  |  January 6th, 2010 at 9:06 am

    Has anyone else noticed that Carlos is actually John Dolan? The control question is that he spells the word “hypocrite” correctly. An actual aneurism-chasing right-wing blowhard of the type whose persona Dolan portrays so accurately as “Carlos” would inevitably spittle out a few spelling or grammatical errors. The reason there have been no War Nerd articles recently is that Dolan has turned his artistry to penning “Carlos” comments. It is good to see Dolan stretching his literary wings yet again.

  • 24. fajensen  |  January 6th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    I find it ironic that Americans are so sensitive about immigration,

    I find it logical: The believers in American Exceptionalism are fading fast.

    Mass Immigration did not work out so well for the previous inhabitants and it will work out in pretty much the same way for the present lot – except slower this time because both parties have access to decent weapons!

  • 25. Charmaine Banks  |  January 6th, 2010 at 11:01 am

    Latina women everywhere have read or heard that they may possess a secret pleasure zone that, if stimulated correctly, causes them to leap off racing Harley-Davidsons, or jump from shag-carpeted futons to accost the neurotic family canine: “Gee, Spot!”

    Envious Anglo women demand they, too, be given their own Gee, Spots. “Close the Gee, Spot gap now!”

    But this so-called Gee, Spot has never been precisely identified as a concrete biological entity. Scientists are still arguing over what it is and whether it exists at all.

    “We just don’t know,” said Lamar Gee, an unemployed day trader from Two Dot, MT. “I know I ain’t got one, there ain’t none in my `66 Chev, and my dog Spot says the jury’s still out on him. Maybe it’s some kind of fungus.”

    Researchers at the 2nd-Ave Greyhound depot in Whitehorse, Yukon Territory, have brought the elusive Gee, Spot to the forefront with a study of more than 21,500 working girls from Boys’ Towns on the south side of the Rio Grande. The study suggests there is no genetic basis for the Gee, Spot and that nefarious fascist fungal factors may contribute to whether a woman believes that she has a Gee, Spot. The new study is published in the respected social journal Hustler Unleashed.

    The definition of Gee, Spot is sometimes too specific and doesn’t take into account that some women perceive their Gee-spots as bigger or smaller, or higher or lower, or harder or softer, or wetter or drier, or blinking or non-blinking, or mp3-compatible (or not), said Charmaine Banks, research scientist at Vibrato University and author of the book “If It Feels Good, Do It: Get A Shot Later.”

    “It’s not so much that it’s a thing that we can see (although I have had these, like, orgasmatronic visions? and sometimes Channel 6 gets fuzzy?), but it has been pretty widely accepted that many women find it pleasurable, if not just outright fun, to cry out, for no other reason than because it feels good, at the family pet. `GEE, SPOT!’ just has a nice, wholesome ring to it, don’t you think?”

    “If at the end of the day, someone’s invented something and they feel pleasure from it, then I think that’s great.”

    Charmaine Banks, Vibrato University researcher

  • 26. Jimbo  |  January 6th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    You can’t really vote for an anti-immigration party if you want in the US, that’s how limited its democracy is. I wonder how many pro-immigration liberals had to grow up in an atmosphere of cultural strife and live with the stress hatred and loss of opportunity it creates.

  • 27. 22andDownTrodden  |  January 6th, 2010 at 12:55 pm

    *sigh*

    Those complaining about “illegal” immigration need only to do one thing: re-tool and re-equip. Is the average Latino deviant competing with Dr. John Hopkins for that surgery position? NO. Is the Latino competing with Billy Smith whom just graduated from a top 100 university with a bachelor’s in engineering? NO.

    Complaining that another person whom has similar skills and aptitudes has “taken away your job” sounds ridiculous. It’s akin to complaining that a better, faster kid took “your” place on the baseball team.

    Oooh and read this:
    http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:DOVKLn4TmzIJ:www.uh.edu/~adkugler/Kugler%26Yuksel_Latinos1.pdf+what+jobs+do+latino+immigrants+work%3F&hl=en&gl=us&sig=AHIEtbSeb0v–HEVw5Hm4LJj_Hpkd4q01g

    and this (hint: it’s from 2005!!!):
    http://pewhispanic.org/newsroom/releases/release.php?ReleaseID=21

  • 28. tam  |  January 6th, 2010 at 1:55 pm

    Oh dear, Pancho. The US economy is doing very well indeed and you’re falling for the oldest trick in the book.

    The corporate media just keep publishing all this propaganda about the economic catastrophe in the US purely to deter the hicks like you from wanting to pay a visit.

    And the same goes for all the doom laden comments above which were actually written by CIA operatives.

  • 29. Mark  |  January 6th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    Remember in Dr. Dolan’s poverty whine that he can’t afford to put his Mexico travel guide to use?

  • 30. 22andDownTrodden  |  January 6th, 2010 at 3:22 pm

    The hard brass tacks come down to this place called “Earth” gradually figuring out it’s one planet, and not host to “nations.” Sovereign bodies have and always were a human creation. In the wild, animals constantly fight against their own kind and different species for land and resources. As rational, relatively-evolved human beings we have the capacity to work together to provide a better dawn for the next generation. Locking ourselves into the nationalistic “tariff out efficiency” because trailer-park Joe can’t pull his own weight paradigm isn’t helping humanity.

  • 31. otti  |  January 6th, 2010 at 8:34 pm

    Mexico and Colombia have a european colonialist government and culture, just like the US and Canada, except they was claimed by Spain instead of England or France, and had more race mixing. Likewise, Argentina and Chile have little remaining indigenous culture and are a mixture of italian, spanish, french, and even palestinian immigrants. Only Central america, southern mexico, Ecuador etc. really have a lot of indigenous influence remaining.

  • 32. Alex_C  |  January 6th, 2010 at 9:29 pm

    The US economy IS heading down, way down. And harder-working, more educated, intelligent, whities will be willing to kill for ANY job.

    This is not to say that whities are more educated/intelligent etc intrinsically, it’s that we don’t have anywhere we can go. We have to fight it out here, and will.

    I think a good example of the way this works is, out in the middle of the country, the folks who’d normally go to become a bank president or a scientist or doctor, don’t get to do that. They get to work at Wal-Mart or McDonald’s. The result is, the hardest-working, most intelligent, pleasant wal-mart clerks, McDonald’s order takers, waiters, car-washers, lawn cutters, house painters, etc, I’ve ever seen. “Mexicans’ can’t compete, they won’t work THAT hard for that low pay.

  • 33. aleke  |  January 6th, 2010 at 10:29 pm

    @Alex_C

    So have you decided whether the whites are dumber than the Mexicans, or have less dignity? Maybe you need to brush up on some Dolan archives, learn a little rhetoric.

    Either way, don’t bother commenting on race relations 😛

  • 34. Dirty Harry  |  January 6th, 2010 at 10:34 pm

    up until this article I wasn’t 100% sure that Pancho was Dolan.

  • 35. Fu Manchu  |  January 7th, 2010 at 2:44 am

    This whole essay is dumb.

    First, who doesn’t know that John Smith was English?

    Second, the Mexican-American War followed after Texas independence and entry to the US. (And in many ways re-motivated the issues that finally caused civil war — ironic right?)

    Third, what difference does it make if the US fills up with latinos? Personally I love latino culture (I’m white but live just above south Texas).

    The only people who care seem to be lower-to-middle-class Americans, who sense the South-Americanization of their own living standards.

    Now that’s a war we’re gonna lose. Talk to a Mexican some time… at least they already know how to live in a country like Mexico.

  • 36. fajensen  |  January 7th, 2010 at 3:31 am

    @22andDownTrodden…
    “””
    In the wild, animals and humans constantly fight against their own kind and different species for land and resources …
    “””
    There, fixed it for ya!

    Nations and Borders evolved/was invented precisely to *avoid* the resource-wasting perpetual petty squabbles between dissimilar tribes!

    Once defensible borders are set down and One tribe rules the roost, people will get along.

    Mix different tribes up and life once again becomes interesting – therefore, one staple of colonial policy was to always import tribes that were good at annoying the locals and popping babies to keep the brew going so the minions would cut each others throats rather than the colonial exploiters.

    This policy apparently worked so well that “they” are doing it at home too … For, while we are busy hating the muslims, the blacks, the mexicans, e.t.c., the banks are looting at will aided & abetted by the government which is also liberally mining the inter-tribe hatred and distrust to get votes for ever more fascist laws – in preparation for when people “see the light”!

  • 37. Hey Mark  |  January 7th, 2010 at 12:27 pm

    Here’s another one for you Ames:

    Three dead in Missouri factory shooting

    http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE6063D420100107

    “Hendron was one of four named plaintiffs in a class-action federal lawsuit that charged ABB with letting mutual fund giant Fidelity Investments steer their retirement accounts into funds that charged “unreasonable and excessive” fees. The retirement plan had $1.47 billion in assets.

    The case went to trial in Kansas City earlier this week.”

    Can’t script ’em any better…

  • 38. jay  |  January 7th, 2010 at 12:54 pm

    Ames,

    Riots broke out yesterday night in Andhra pradesh India, based on the Larry summers, reliance and Chief minister reddy’s murder connection wildly speculative article someone wrote on this website.

    Some news channel read this website and brodcast it as some investigative journalism by a russian website.

    People are destroying reliance properties and probably their own jobs in the state based on stupid speculation on this very website.

  • 39. Alex_C  |  January 7th, 2010 at 2:06 pm

    Aleke – I maintain that we whities are as smart as Mexicans, may *appear* smarter because more of us have had brushes with books and formal education (don’t let that fool you though) and we have LESS dignity.

    The reason we have less dignity is, we’re atomized and we have no home country to go home to. This is it. And we’re taking a beating, watching $80k a year become $8k and then $4k. On this last I speak from personal experience.

    On race relations, I’ll spout all I want because …. .this is ExileD!

    As I keep harping on, we’ll end up with a color continuum, whiter and taller the higher the social class, although on the whole we’ll be a lot whiter overall because there’s so much Caucasian blood up here and because higher latitudes favor lighter skin.

    And we’ll all get along somehow, right after we’re done fighting like cats in a sack through the coming Dieoff.

    Check out dieoff dot org if you don’t believe me on that.

    I have a very strange view on race anyway. I was a hated “Haole” where I grew up, I’m actually part Injun and tan up nicely though, enough to get the “hairy eyeball” pretty often if I get a LOT of sun doing some outdoor sport in the summer here. Of course I just have to choose nice whitebread sports like rowing and bicycle touring/racing lol. Black folks were considered “white people with black skins” if you can conceive of that, where I grew up. Hispanics were considered a slightly darker kinda white. It’s weird and hard for Mainland ppl to understand. I think locally I come across as a very light skinned Hispanic except when they notice I don’t speak Spanish worth a damn then I’m a very light skinned Hispanic in denial lol.

    I’d love to see the kind of revolution, collapse, and dieoff that takes all the jerks and leaves the salt of the earth type people because those really come in all colors and we’re gonna need genetic diversity, see James Lovelock’s latest writings on that.

  • 40. Damagehold  |  January 8th, 2010 at 5:19 pm

    This is the definitive article proving that Pancho was Dolan all along. Kudos on another amazing transformation of authorial voice!

  • 41. Old Rebel  |  January 8th, 2010 at 6:23 pm

    Actually, we’re not all immigrants. Some of us are descended from FOUNDERS of a new nation.

    If the builders and owners of a house are the equivalent of the burglars of a house, then you have a point.

    Otherwise, you’re all wet.

  • 42. Skeeve  |  January 8th, 2010 at 10:19 pm

    I wonder if the probable author of this screed realizes just how much it resembles similar rants by one Mark Steyn (If it is Dolan, I hope he’s properly mortified at his own hypocrisy). All of the same idiotic assumptions are on display, i.e. the flow of immigrants will continue unabated, the host countries will remain democratic (the only way a large cohort of unarmed, undereducated peasants could possibly “take over” a first-world country), that the economic growth that spurs such migration in the first place will remain possible in a resource-depleted future, etc., etc.

    And the most idiotic assumption of all, that there are no other important trends at work in our world aside from skyrocketing third-world birthrates and the natural desire of some of the world’s poor to migrate to the rich countries. “Pancho” might want to google “Peak Oil” and “Haber-Bosch” and get himself educated. The population bubble that fuels these high levels of immigration is only possible with cheap hydrocarbon inputs into the agribusiness matrix, and cheap hydrocarbons are about to become a thing of the past.

    While I’m no fan of our murdering government, anyone who touts this “weapons of the womb” crap as the cure for Western imperialism and white supremacy should take another look at the facts on the ground, and realize exactly what it is that they’re advocating. Populations with uncontrolled birthrates are not on the road to “victory,” they’re setting themselves up for disaster.

  • 43. Alex_C  |  January 9th, 2010 at 1:13 am

    OldRebel thanks for showing us the best part of you ran down your uncle’s leg.

    I don’t like to get into references to the founders and the mayflower and all those assholes because I can trace my lineage to ’em. I consider the American Indian ancestors to be the first ones to be proud of. As for the founders, I’m only proud of ’em because under the laws of their time they were traitors, terrorists, and all-round horrible people, many of whom died bankrupt. I’m sure you’d not associate with ’em either if they were living today, you’d not have the guts or the character to. They gave the ultimate FUCK YOU to the government of the time, and these days, I’ve hardly met a “patriot”, “Republican”, “Free American” etc who’s not on Food Stamps and every other handout they can stand in line for.

    Royal lineages end up in things like … Prince Charles. That’s what cousin-fucking ends in. Think about it.

  • 44. adolphhitler  |  January 9th, 2010 at 10:09 am

    the article only expresses what the vast majority of latinos feel. however they will never win this invasion. as we speak we are completing the border wall which will end illegal immigration. a movement to simply stop all legal immigration is gaining momentum and will become a big issue by 2012. you can see where all this is going by listening to the tea party movement. it is becoming a racist movement that crosses party lines. all it needs now is a leader unite its various elements. white amerika will never let go of its privileged status without a real fight. the depression is acting as a catalyst to accellerate this movement. ultimately, whites will vote as a racist block instead of being split by political parties, religion, or social status. when that happens your so called invasion will stopped dead in its tracks and a lot of people will have to pack their bags. the meanest most vicious killer on earth is white america. it has been sleeping for 60 years after feasting on the fat of the land. it is now awakening because for the first time since the great depression it is also feeling the hunger pangs of poverty and unemployment. i actually shudder at the thought of what is going to happen.

  • 45. mx?  |  January 10th, 2010 at 6:32 am

    http://www.nytimes.com/2010/01/10/us/10detain.html?pagewanted=2&th&emc=th

    Not all immigrants are mexican.

  • 46. mx?  |  January 10th, 2010 at 6:35 am

    asdly, adolphitler, you are not wrong, whites will stick with whites, as latinos, blacks(sorry, african-americans) or asians will stick with their own tribes also.

    The way I see it is not racism just human nature, the bad kind.

  • 47. mx?  |  January 10th, 2010 at 6:39 am

    Some examples of successful “baby warfare”:

    -The vandals taking on the romans.
    -the moroccans green march in the sahara against the spaniards.
    -Macedonians, modern macedonians are not greek, they are slavs, Why do you think that is?

  • 48. adolphhitler  |  January 10th, 2010 at 9:46 am

    you are right mx…baby warfare works unless you employ genecide or ethnic cleansing…the best example of baby warfare vs ethnic cleansing is israel vs palistinians

  • 49. Darth-Severus  |  January 12th, 2010 at 8:08 pm

    > I find it ironic that Americans are so sensitive about immigration, considering they’re descendants of immigrants as well,

    This is surely one of the dumbest arguments against anti-immigration policy. But the rest of the article is not better. If this would be a war of arguments it would be easy for the opposition against massimmigration.
    Just stop legalising those people, stop giving their children your citizenship, don´t let them use your hospitals and don´t let them send their children to school in US, but create a rotation system for guestworkers, and the problems are nearly solved. And if your southern neighbors don´t take their people back, send them to refugee camps outside US.

    Sorry for my bad English.

  • 50. Frank  |  January 14th, 2010 at 8:30 pm

    Hey Darth-V… o I mean Severus…

    it’s not your English, it’s your logic (Du bist mit Sicherheit Deutscher, oder?…how did I guess?)

    why is it one of the dumbest arguments against immigration (or anti-immigration policy as you would have it)? It’s the key argument. No question.

    And regarding your reference to Gastarbeiter… hmmm the original German system assumed that they would happily pay into the social security system, maintaining lazy Germans in their accustomed comfort, and then leave their contributions behind and go back to their countries and families…. hahaha… we all know how that worked out.

    The US could go down the same path as the “core countries” Europe is now taking… no more Aryan babies, depopulation of large parts of the continent, importation of (preferably) uneducated migrants to do the dirty work – cleaning the streets, cleaning homes, Au-Pair-Mädchen…), denial of citizenship and rights to these plus expecting them to contribute taxes and other deductions to maintain the lazy indigenous pensioners (because that’s all that’s left)… the US may have a chance but for central Europe, forget it… the wolves and bears are moving into the depopulated areas and the countries concerned will disappear. With some of the attitudes expressed, that’s no loss.

  • 51. Gustavo Arellano  |  January 30th, 2010 at 11:43 pm

    Best analysis of the Reconquista EVER!!!

  • 52. Mario Casarez  |  February 3rd, 2010 at 10:32 am

    Wow, so much intellect coming from all sides. I am impressed with all.My Aztec & Euro brothers R so smart writing this.
    Hey gang, fact is your all right and all wrong on all points.
    Montana is right that the Southwest will someday have a higher population of ‘Latino’ backgroung. But, it is no take over brother. We will have to live in harmony w/ all. Hey my own family is all over. I mean from lilly white to charco black.
    I am not going to start preaching here, But, really GOD has to be put into this equation. No I am not fundie white chris. Just a plain ole, rock gut Chicano born in the Big D.
    So, yes it is happening and oh well. Let it happen. But we can never, ever start hating on our White & Black brothers.
    We will be a very multcultural society soon. Just let it be.
    Love & Peace to All!!

  • 53. Veritas  |  February 12th, 2010 at 8:05 pm

    America should adopt Mexico’s immigration and naturalization policies. Just ask any Salvadoran or Guatemalian what they think of Mexico and its policies.

    As the Mexicians say God gave Mexico so many natural riches he had to populate it with Mexicans to make everything even.


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