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Dispatch / December 6, 2010

kevin-rudd full of shit

From The eXiled’s Special Australasia Correspondent

PERTH, AUSTRALIA–A few hours ago (as of writing this), Julian Assange released his first US Embassy cable regarding Australian politics. It’s still too early for me to make my mind up, but it’s never too early to speculate. If the cable is genuine, it might be the most delicious disgrace in Prime Ministerial history – my brain’s tall poppy receptors are already tingling at the idea that it’s a real communiqué. Still, the whole thing is a little too perfect.

According to the cable, our former Prime Minister, Kevin Rudd, made some unfortunate comments about China in a 75-minute meeting with Hillary Clinton. According to Rudd, China’s leaders are “sub-rational” and America should be ready to “deploy force” if diplomacy fails. Even more damning (at least, supposedly) is his claim that Australia’s plans to expand its submarine fleet were “a response to China’s growing ability to project force.”

I should explain, before anything, why this is so delicious. Kevin Rudd came to power in Australia in late 2007, just over a year before Obama’s election victory. Like Obama, he replaced a long-standing conservative government while presenting himself as a progressive, and, like Obama’s, his government was a carbon copy of his predecessor’s in almost every area, including Iraq and Afghanistan.

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I wouldn’t normally use “tall poppy” as a slur, but if Rudd wasn’t a soulless vegetable with a waxy disproportionate head, then what was he? He certainly didn’t resemble Gough Whitlam, Australia’s last real Labor Prime Minister (whose election victory, if you believe Kwitny, made the CIA panic “almost as if our Australian ally had actually fallen to communists”). If he had one personality quirk, it was phoning random public servants during the early hours of the morning – this got him the nickname “Kevin 24/7.” Unfortunately, Prime Minister Crystal Dick seemed to spend most of his time tinkering with Howard policies to make them even more evil. In 2007, Howard gave families a free piece of Internet filtering software that cost $90m to develop… and could be bypassed by teenagers in less than 10 minutes. Rudd decided a software-based filter wasn’t enough and tried to extend Howard’s idea to an ISP level. It would never have worked, but like the current TSA scandal in America, it gave instant brownie points to all sorts of Penn & Teller loudmouths who’d be otherwise unemployed.

The other thing Rudd is famous for is China. He speaks Mandarin, had a long career as a Beijing diplomat in the 1980s, and Australian newspaper cartoonists occasionally like to draw him in a Chairman Mao suit. Playing up his sensitivity to Chinese culture was a crucial part of his 2007 campaign strategy. Earlier in the year, his party caucus forced him to resign and gave the PM job to his deputy, Julia Gillard. Now, imagine a political machine full of cold, convictionless little Adrian-Lamo-style nerds (plus a few jocks who happen to wear glasses) and you’d have a good picture of Rudd’s “Labor Right” faction. As a consolation prize for losing the Prime Minister job, they gave Rudd a cosy position as Foreign Minister in the “new” Gillard Government, figuring his Chinese credentials would carry him.

And that’s hardly the best piece of irony.

As Foreign Minister, you see, Rudd is the default head of ASIS, Australia’s equivalent to the CIA. If this morning’s cable is genuine, then Julian Assange has just caused our foreign intelligence agency one of its biggest ever embarrassments. It was only yesterday that the Wikileaks founder accused Australia’s government of betraying him “so that Australian diplomats and politicians can be invited to the best US embassy cocktail parties.” It looks like he’s finally bitten back.

It’s a pleasant scenario, but there’s still every chance the cable was a selective leak. For starters, it makes Rudd look suspiciously tough and uncompromising, which is exactly the bullshit West Wing image every Labor hack wants to cultivate. I’ve known a few. The scene of an Australian Prime Minister telling an American Secretary of State when to “deploy force” is even fishier, almost like a propaganda script to disguise Australia’s lackey status. Several readers of The Age website have already responded positively, claiming Rudd is “one of the few politicians around the world to approach China with some honesty” and is “only telling the truth.” If it’s a ruse, it might just work. (And it’s not like One Nation racists are the only voters Rudd could grab with a bit of Sinophobia: there are plenty of right-wing Chinese anticommunists still around.) The question is whether Rudd gave Beijing advance warning: to answer that, Assange would have to find some Australian or Chinese cables.

There’s also the matter of Rudd’s daughter Jessica, who happens to be married to a Hong-Kong-born banker called Albert Tse (also the former President of the Labor Club at QUT, the Queensland University of Technology). In 2008, Jessica moved to Beijing with her husband, apparently quitting her job in PR to become a full-time socialite. Rudd obviously has a pretty significant stake in China – that’s another thing that makes the cable a bit too perfect. There’s no shortage of failed Labor politicians who’ve badmouthed their former associates for profit – Google “Mark Latham” if you’re American – but dissing China while your son-in-law is doing business there makes no sense to a careerist unless the Chinese are in on the whole thing. That’s why, if it isn’t staged, it’s one hell of a clusterfuck.

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The Rudd Family: (l-r) Son-in-law Albert Tse, daughter/author Jessica, Daddy & Mommy

Ms. Rudd’s career comes with a few other unanswered questions. Less than two months after her father’s forced resignation, she brought out a “political chick-lit” novel called Campaign Ruby. The writing itself was mediocre, the usual plot about shoe-shopping and whatever, but the book had one claim to fame – predicting Crystal Dick’s resignation and replacement by Australia’s first female Prime Minister. The mainstream media called this “freakily prescient.” The really freaky part, though, is seeing Jessica Rudd in an interview. She claims to have barely finished two chapters before getting a book deal. She also claims to have gotten a deadline to complete the book by December 2009, despite being a first-time writer. Why December? Did the Labor hacks tip her off about her father’s resignation months ahead? (After her father’s demotion, getting to predict a major political event would make a nice consolation prize.) And could you imagine her writing a political novel if her father wasn’t about to get booted? A novel about a PM, getting ratfucked, published while he’s still in office? By his own fucking spawn? In the middle of an election year? Finally, she says the book was “so much fun” to write. I don’t think anyone who’s actually tried to write a novel would describe the process as “fun” – unless you’re handing outlines to a ghost writer, that is.

In short, Kevin Rudd has had plenty of incidents in his career that were about as spontaneous and unscripted as an All Saints episode, though I’m yet to issue a final verdict about Assange’s latest leak.

Or, as Jessica Rudd would put it: “I know, such a coincidence.”

Ramon Glazov lives and writes in Perth, Western Australia. Email him at “ramonglazov at gmail dot com”

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  • 1. David Jackmanson  |  December 6th, 2010 at 3:04 pm

    Always nice to see Rudd and his family of tax eaters get a smack, but the cable has been reported quite poorly. See http://nebuchadnezzarwoollyd.blogspot.com/2010/12/media-miss-news-in-first-aussie.html

  • 2. Bank Guy in Brussels  |  December 6th, 2010 at 3:31 pm

    This improbable smear on Rudd is one more piece of evidence that WikiLeaks & Assange are CIA.

    Significant multiple proofs show that WikiLeaks is a (very good) CIA & Mossad intelligence operation – this is already being covered in parts by some alternative journalists (Daily Bell, Cryptome, Wayne Madsen, Webster Tarpley, others …)

    With all his great international legal team, Julian Assange chooses to hang out in Britain, which has a uniquely corrupt fascist extradition treaty with the US, whereby the UK will hand anyone over to the US without evidence or probable cause, just because the US requests it … The US gov’t can fabricate charges against anyone in 5 minutes … yet nothing is filed against Assange, even though the US could have him, just by simply asking their UK best buddies

    Contrast Assange with poor UK kid hacker Gary McKinnon, so brutally treated by the UK and US … yet Assange and WikiLeaks ‘hacking’ is 1000 times bigger but Assange is coddled by both US and UK

    Numerous other documented items -

    - Board members of WikiLeaks from CIA-entities, including ones tied to CIA-Google contracts and funding, and to CIA’s front NGO ‘National Endowment for Democracy’

    - Thrust of WikiLeaks revelations supporting US war initiatives against Iran and for military intervention against Pakistan, trying to make Lebanese distrust and fear each other, slander of independent Al Jazeera news, other US & Israeli gov’t larger objectives

    - Israeli Prime Minister happy about WikiLeaks in effect supporting war in Middle East, and Julian Assange praises the Israeli Prime Minister

    - WikiLeaks has something like € 1 million in bank, € 200,000 annual budget, supposedly from small ‘donations’ via PayPal etc. … but bigger sweetheart funding is clearly the case

    - WikiLeaks website doesn’t reflect million-in-assets organisation, many have done much more with much less

    - One of Julian Assange’s lawyers is also lawyer for US Associated Press, giant US-gov’t linked corporate media agency, owned by major US media owned by ruling US oligarch families

    - With € 1 million in assets, a small army of international lawyers, and Assange and friends ‘expert computer hackers’ … they sign up for US-based internet services, just like they are a bunch of newbies on Facebook

    - One of WikiLeaks site names registered by Jimmy Wales founder of Wikipedia, notorious CIA-agent disinfo site (proven in Wired news etc.), Wales himself part of CIA-linked CFR (Council on Foreign Relations) major US gov’t policy tool for oligarchs & establishment. Jimmy Wales is also a close personal friend of President of Israel Shimon Peres, even recently attending an intimate birthday party for him (this from radical Israeli journalist Barry Chamish)

    - WikiLeaks has unusual super good access to corporate media, NY Times and UK Guardian, both shills – mouthpieces for US and UK governments and establishment, media with fake ‘progressive’ image but refusing to carry much anti-gov’t reporting, however they have nice open door for WikiLeaks just like for other CIA planted material

    - Julian Assange hostile to other progressive revelations, Assange hostile to questioning about US 11 Sept for example

    - Julian Assange childhood troubled, under tutelage of parental figures involved with CIA-mind-control-experiment-type application of severely mind-altering drugs (LSD) upon children

    - Assange has previously used internet code name ‘Mendax’, ancient Latin word for ‘liar’

    - Improbable situation with Assange and Swedish girls, one of them previously published web treatise on how to get revenge on ex-boyfriend re false accusations, one of them has departed for Israel

    - Was it time to put some ‘heat’ on Assange because too many people were beginning to write about the CIA-WikiLeaks connections?

    - Was it time to make it look to the world like WikiLeaks is anti-US, to cover for the fact it is a US intel operation?

    - The best lies are those that mix some truth with the lies, and the US gov’t, has little problem with a further expansion of the well-known fact it is a torturing, murdering, killing-of-innocents regime, and spying and putting the squeeze on diplomats. A few more Iraq and Afghanistan war atrocities exposed, are a small price to pay for:
    — A world-class media manipulation project to help sponsor more upcoming wars, and
    — Enabling the US to achieve greater dominance over internet content, and
    — Enlisting other Western governments in US-led global efforts of internet censorship, as has already occurred thanks to WikiLeaks.

    Video « Is WikiLeaks a CIA Operation? », speaking of some of the above on YouTube:
    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=brGAgrxscOg

  • 3. Victorvalley Villain  |  December 6th, 2010 at 4:07 pm

    I just skimmed, but
    “Wikipedia, notorious CIA-agent disinfo site”

    LOL Wut?

  • 4. Victorvalley Villain  |  December 6th, 2010 at 4:22 pm

    Re: my last post, I just skimmed #2′s comment. Not the original article. I read that, it wasn’t bat shit crazy.

  • 5. Doom  |  December 6th, 2010 at 6:20 pm

    “Assange has previously used internet code name ‘Mendax’, ancient Latin word for ‘liar’”

    So what, Assange chooses aliases like a comic book supervillain does?

    “Aha, I was never Dell Rusk! I am and will always be the Red Skull!”

    And yeah, 2 sounds like a buddy of mine who thought South Park co-creator Matt Stone was hunting him down. I wonder if 2 is addicted to cough syrup too.

  • 6. John Drinkwater  |  December 6th, 2010 at 6:51 pm

    This ‘Assange is CIA’ claim is even more extraordinary and harder to believe than 9-11 was an inside job. If Assange is CIA he’s easily the smoothest operator in, uh, probably world history. He’s figured out how to both talk and behave like a true, bona fide and intellectual anarchist in the tradition of Peter Kropotkin.

    One question I have is this: all these scumbags in the government coming out against Assange: Clinton, Obama’s spokespeople, practically the entire GOP, etc. – do they know he’s a CIA agent and they’re just playing stupid? Or do they not know (including Obama) and that’s why they’re denouncing him?

    While we’re thinking about that riddle, read this ‘manifesto’ published by Assange in 2006 “State and Terrorist Conspiracies”: http://iq.org/conspiracies.pdf

    I’ve been trying to read and watch as much of Assange as possible from the beginning. Everything seems authentic about the guy. And what about his personal history? Has that all been fabricated from the beginning as part of his ‘cover’?

    Lastly, you wrote: “Julian Assange hostile to other progressive revelations, Assange hostile to questioning about US 11 Sept for example”

    Examples? Evidence?

  • 7. Strelnikov  |  December 6th, 2010 at 8:35 pm

    “Bank Guy in Brussels” is a 9/11 Truther….the conspiracy people are very unhappy because Wikileaks hasn’t found the documents proving that 9/11 was an inside job, that the US has crashed UFOs, and so on. So Assange is a CIA agent and the whole thing is a US plot. Also, “BGiB” compares Julian Assange to Gary McKinnon (who, BTW is 44 and not a kid); the person who actually took the data in the Wikileaks case was Bradley Manning, and he is in the brig. Note to online conspiriacy people: check your facts before you come out with the theories.

  • 8. John Drinkwater  |  December 6th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    I can understand someone who would question some of the government’s claims about 9-11. Hell, I bet even Assange has questioned them. But to dismiss Assange as CIA seems totally insane to me. State department cables rather obviously wouldn’t reveal anything about 9-11 anyway…so I don’t see what “truthers” have to be upset about.

  • 9. rapier  |  December 6th, 2010 at 9:02 pm

    Australia seems to think that what he did is grossly irresponsible now,instead of it being illegal.

    Apparently the West is completely pusified.

  • 10. Just An Australian  |  December 6th, 2010 at 9:21 pm

    There’s nothing to see in this cable. Just Australia sucking up to the USA, like we always do. Bet a similar cable from the Chinese meeting would be exactly the same – suck up to big guys.

  • 11. Grimgrin  |  December 6th, 2010 at 9:27 pm

    While there are a lot of questions about 9/11, including the intelligence failures that lead up to it and the hysterical borderline fascist response afterward, Assange correctly dismisses the idea that the towers were brought down in a controlled demolition as the gibbering of idiots who are incapable of coping with reality. Because these gibbering idiots are incapable of self assessment or doubt, they then spin an elaborate conspiracy theory to make him part of the overarching conspiracy that supposedly took down the towers.

  • 12. John Drinkwater  |  December 6th, 2010 at 9:48 pm

    My fault. I see. Truthers don’t like Assange because he admitted in August he wasn’t with them: http://www.digitaljournal.com/article/296308

    Well, that’s pretty fucked. Kind of blow to the movement, I can see now, but it makes them look worse by immediately accusing Assange of being CIA, too! They should’ve just kept quiet and let this thing with Wikileaks play out…but of course I guess there was never any chance of that…

  • 13. Dejo  |  December 6th, 2010 at 10:05 pm

    I can’t believe we voted for such a tool. -_-

  • 14. John Figler  |  December 7th, 2010 at 12:34 am

    Assange is crap and for me just as good a CIA guy as any other. The day he comes up with something that actually makes a Govt fall, preferably an US Govt, I’ll start believing he’s an anarchist or something even near.

    Leaks of Chinese/Iranian/Israeli docs would serve me also. But you haven’t seen a single secret doc of the Chinese Govt yet, have you?

  • 15. Churba  |  December 7th, 2010 at 12:36 am

    @ Strelnikov – But searching for facts takes all the fun out of it! Especially when those Pesky facts get in the way of your carefully prepared theories – always a problem, since pretty much every conspiracy theory is a house of cards, take out one bit, and the rest comes fluttering down like debris from a terrorist attack on the World Series of Poker tournament.

    Also, If you read over his post, it provides an excellent opportunity to play a rousing game of “Spot the Logical Fallacy”.
    I’ve already got Special pleading, Anomaly hunting, Fallacy of accident, Affirming the Consequent, and Begging the question. How many can you spot? COLLECT THEM ALL!

  • 16. T.B.  |  December 7th, 2010 at 1:25 am

    I wasn’t aware that writers are questioning the authenticity of the cables. How can he doubt the Wikileaks credibility in one hand, but then make a claim that Rudd’s daughter was dishonest about her book? It’s a contradiction. I enjoyed the article, however, it seems only fair to give the information your writing about some credibility.

  • 17. 16 Shells from a 30.06  |  December 7th, 2010 at 1:27 am

    Gimme 100 shares of Wikileaks is spooked up like a motherfucker.

    What have they told us? Aside from the occasional dipshit authoritarian knobgobbler, everyone knows that diplomats are dodgy and trashy by nature…it’s their job.

    What did they tell us before that?

    the Iraq memos told us what is already well known (war is hell)..

    and the gunship video was already in the possession of Reuters before Wikileaks released it, Reuters just didn’t want to show everyone their employees being massacred.

    Here’s my guess. The shaky remnants of the Republic are taking a last run at the banksters who pillaged our treasury and the imperialists within our government that the banksters hold in thrall.

    SO wikileaks releases some lukewarm government gotcha material…before dropping the bomb-that-matters on the banksters who are intent on raping and trashing the Republic once and for all.

  • 18. 1984  |  December 7th, 2010 at 5:35 am

    i usually post under another nick but the author is not wrong in saying that Rudds removal was known for sometime before it actually happened.

    a close friend was told at a least week before it happened. Considering this person was hardly an ALP hack that makes barely any sense at all unless it was the worlds worst secret (like Downer fucking his brother in law).

    anyway re the massive thread hijack, I think Chomsky recent interview highlighted some of the wiki-leak cables from Israel contained either massive fabrications or the US ambassador is a complete idiot.

    The problem with the cables is that you have no easy way to independently verify with hard evidence which is usually the right way to identify if something is bullshit or not. As much as I like to have an inside loop on Clinton’s bathroom conversations I can hardly attest that any of the cables are exactly what they claim. The fact that the wikicablegates site has no search function is extremely annoying. I don’t give a shit about reading ten thousand cables from the Beirut embassy. I want to key word that mutha fucker and search for rude words and things like “reptile people” and “nazi supermen in Antarctica”.

    that said i would prefer a world where we have wikileaks to one where we don’t.

  • 19. Destro  |  December 7th, 2010 at 6:36 am

    Wikileaks is not a CIA creation and Assange is not a super spy mole or what not, but we should all be wary of planted leaks fro, various intel groups.

  • 20. Strelnikov  |  December 7th, 2010 at 10:49 am

    Julian Assange has surrendered himself to the London Police over the rediculous Swedish charges; the authorities will not allow bail to posted. By doing this Assange might be trying to deflect the attacks on his site.

  • 21. Thomas  |  December 7th, 2010 at 11:35 am

    Bank Guy in Brussels has written an instant classic. Some favourites: WikiLeaks must be CIA funded because they have a $200,000 budget. Their website is so low budget it must be a CIA ruse. And the best, hide the fact wikileaks is a US mouthpiece by making it look like a huge diplomatic embarrasment to the US.

  • 22. Jumppu  |  December 7th, 2010 at 2:37 pm

    This is a bit off-topic, but please be patient. I wonder if you readers there knew and could recommend some sort of study or manual on standard government (UK, US, China, Russia, whatever) mis- and disinformation tactics. As a lot of Exiled articles consern these issues, it would be good to gather some ground on the practises. I didn´t find anything in Amazon. Thank you!

  • 23. JC  |  December 7th, 2010 at 4:02 pm

    I’ve yet to see any leaked material that doesn’t benefit the U.S. in some way so far, got a good laugh out of the Litvinenko materials released – loved the re hash of the lame propaganda being pushed in the media being re-pushed in these leaks. It all seems to be one big rationalization for endless war and empire to me.

    Also, why does anyone need wikileaks to email sensitive data to a bunch of major media outlets? Anyone can do that, this isn’t the 70′s.

  • 24. Jeff Albertson  |  December 7th, 2010 at 4:05 pm

    Assange’s main purpose is to sow distrust within the authoritarian conspiracy and cause them to over-react and stifle their own communications. Mission fucking accomplished

    “The more secretive or unjust an organization is, the more leaks induce fear and paranoia in its leadership and planning coterie. This must result in minimization of efficient internal communications mechanisms (an increase in cognitive “secrecy tax”) and consequent system-wide cognitive decline resulting in decreased ability to hold onto power as the environment demands adaption. Hence in a world where leaking is easy, secretive or unjust systems are nonlinearly hit relative to open, just systems. Since unjust systems, by their nature induce opponents, and in many places barely have the upper hand, mass leaking leaves them exquisitely vulnerable to those who seek to replace them with more open forms of governance.” Julian Assange

  • 25. exhole  |  December 7th, 2010 at 4:23 pm

    To #22:
    http://www.allworldwars.com/CIA-Psychological-Operations-In-Guerrilla-Warfare.html

    This is a link to a CIA manual distributed to the contras. It’s widely available on the net, there are also PDF version.

    http://www.iwar.org.uk/psyops/

    This link takes you to US army and air force psyops manuals. This is probably more what you had in mind

  • 26. John Drinkwater  |  December 7th, 2010 at 4:42 pm

    Jeff Albertson is correct. It doesn’t esp. matter what’s in the cables. What matters is that blew a hole in their security and they’re freaking the fuck out. Re Litvinenko, etc., State Dept. cables were obviously going to parrot the same line as western media (i.e. Putin did it). We all knew that. That’s not the point of the leaks. It is, rather, to essentially undermine not only the US government but the whole corrupt world system based on secrecy and an array of authoritarian regimes.

  • 27. Wyse Guy  |  December 7th, 2010 at 5:04 pm

    Assange is in court now in Britain. But I’m sure it’s one big conspiracy.

    Michael Madsen is a loser who’s never talked to an ordinary South Asian when reporting on that region. I don’t know what Daily Bell is, and frankly don’t care.

    Cryptome is run by an old hippy fart, who’s likely jealous that *someone* actually shook up the system (and I’m telling you, the system is looking pretty shook, from Israel, Eastward into India), whilst he continues to mumble bullshit from the sixties [I think I can trust the Exile's anti-Hippie bias ;-) ]. Cryptome also has a list of Wikileaks proxies, cause he recognises a good thing.

    Webster Tarpley keeps mumbling about Af-Pak and Gwadar but the urethra eyed fuck never actually talks to any Afghans or Pakistanis.

    I don’t know or care who Wayne Madsen (any relation to Michael) is.

    But one jerk off has had the sense to keep quiet about Wikileaks Getting Off It’s Ass and DOING Something; internet conspiracy theorist: Alex Jones. He’s featured all these fuckwads on his “show” but has the good sense to STFU and sit on the fence whilst they mouth off Assange (and obvious case of a troubled childhood, but still), prolly, cause Alex Jones has had Assange on his show.

    And as for the Australian “looks so convenient” factor, I would like to say that Roman makes Rudd sound fishy, and the leaks are convenient, but I think the limited nature of the Australian leaks might have to do with the Guardian/Der Spiegel/Wikileaks plan of dribbling a few out periodically. So these organisations have to put out something that effects *ALL* parts of the globe, and we get a collection of disjointed bombshells. I actually read the Rudd thing four days ago, but I seriously doubt that the *Guardian* would be covering a guy like Rudd’s ass. I think the way to determine this leak is to ask,

    1) how much does Rudd squirm?
    2) how much is his career damaged?
    3) if Rudd’s career is damaged is that publicly beneficial or not?
    4) if you believe that damaging Rudd’s career is a publicly damaging thing, who would come to benefit from it?

    And on and on it Socratically goes.

  • 28. Wyse Guy  |  December 7th, 2010 at 5:26 pm

    I want to actually thank the rest of this thread from going after the throwback conspiracy theorist at #2. It was a pleasure to read so many people striking back at bullshit that derails people from trying to make sense of things. Maybe Assange and his group got tired of reading crap like that on the internet and decided one day, “Alright, let’s actually do something with this internet thing besides mumbling over Area 51″.

    Oh and in the meantime, the poor kid’s now in court. I really feel sorry for him.

    He has an ego, but whatever; he might be going to jail for his beliefs and actions.

    If that (beyond getting killed), isn’t bravery, then what is?

    Vive Julian Assange!
    Vive Wikileaks
    Vive les commentateurs Internet !

    And of course:

    Vive L’Exil! ;-)

  • 29. SweetLeftFoot  |  December 7th, 2010 at 6:18 pm

    I was of the opinion for a while that wikileaks was a CIA op but the more that comes out, the less and less I believe it to the point where now I’m fairly sure this is on the straight up. The danger now is that every intel and corporate espionage operator in the world will be seeking to use wikileaks to smear/shame/banktup opposing nations/actors/business rivals.

    Conversely, the first time I read Rammin Bumzo’s stuff about Oz I thought he was an ill informed knobcheese and the more and more I read of his stuff, the more I’m sure my assessment is correct.

    For example, the right did not give Rudd the job as Foreign Minister. After he got the arse (and your description of the Labor Right is off too – you forgot to mention the very heavy and dodgy 2nd/3rd generation ethnic branch stack element like Arbib) and Gillard took over, Rudd was demoted to the backbench.

    It was only after his treacherous and damaging mid election leaks that he suddenly found himself in frame for DFAT.

    As regards Assange, he chose to hang out in Britain – because he was staying at the Frontline Club, about the only safe place for him in the world.

    Assange was effectively the source of the greatest story in the world so he stayed where the journos who were relying on him could keep him under cover: protect the source.

    Rudd wasn’t telling Clinton ‘when’ to deploy force like you disingenously claim, he simply said that at some point, if China wasn’t going to play by the rules the US was imposing on the region, then force would have to be deployed.

    This bit is just priceless: “Did the Labor hacks tip her off about her father’s resignation months ahead?”

    Aye right, you utter cretin. Yes, Richo himself rang her. You silly cunt, months before they nailed him, he was the greatest thing they’d ever seen. from what Shorten and Arbib and that faggot arsehole NUW bloke have let slip, its pretty obvious the whole Knife Kev operation was a panicky affairs cobbled together in weeks.

    And like they are, as they prepare to overthrow a popularly elected PM, tell his daughter. So she can write a book. So that will be his payoff.

    I should end this rant by saying I think Rudd is a tremendous cunt and I despise him and everything he stands for. But you should go back to writing sub par Death Porn and stay the fuck away from politics.

  • 30. BenCorp.  |  December 7th, 2010 at 10:44 pm

    #24, Jeff, is right.

    Wikileaks won’t bring down the PTB but it’s all in the mix –

    #2 Get out more. Support Wikileaks anyway- turn that Mossad operation in a giant own goal.

  • 31. Strelnikov  |  December 7th, 2010 at 11:09 pm

    JC, we have not even seen 2 percent of the stuff Manning pulled of the government servers….it’s 100,000+ documents, also remember that this is how the US government sees things and not captured information from foreign governments. There is so much stuff it would take an outfit like Wikileaks time to look through it all, censor any names, and send it to any willing press outlets. It should get more interesting as we move closer and closer to New Years.

  • 32. ianam  |  December 8th, 2010 at 1:44 am

    The run-on idiocy of #2 is ironically compounded by Assange’s arrest.

  • 33. thus_speaketh_the_butt_trumpet  |  December 8th, 2010 at 12:49 pm

    What’s funny is, on US radio programs, “Wikileaks” and “Wikipedia” are used interchangeably.

  • 34. SweetLeftFoot  |  December 8th, 2010 at 2:26 pm

    WAHEY!

    Mark Arbib outed as CIA agent.

  • 35. Ozinator  |  December 9th, 2010 at 5:57 am

    going after fallacies in #2 and using that to dismiss the evidence that 9-11 was an inside job is ironically ad hominem.

    Disinformatzia doesn’t seem like it’s needed with all the half wits poorly describing aspects of 9-11 but there is some evidence of it going on. Easily discounting stuff allows people to throw out the baby with the bathwater and so there is talk about invisible planes and Jews not showing up for work. “See, it’s crackpot anti Semites who would think Mossad or the CIA would have a hand in this”. Bad thinking-whether planted with disinformatzia or organic-doesn’t mean it’s rational to believe planes brought down buildings they hit and one they didn’t.

    Regarding Assange, he doesn’t need to be a spook for his site to be used as if he were. The cherry picking by the media and the plants sent there is a much better plan than assassinating the guy or snuffing out the internet. But as I tried to point out…getting something wrong about him, doesn’t mean he isn’t a spook—it’s just that that’s not as important a thing to focus on and in itself could be disinformatzia

  • 36. Gracie Young  |  December 9th, 2010 at 5:15 pm

    INSTEAD OF PROSECUTING JULIAN ASSAGE ON SUPPOSEDLY “TRUMPED UP CHARGES” – WHY NOT HIRE HIM TO FIX UP AND SECURE ALL THOSE SUPPOSEDLY “SECURE” OFFICIAL GOVERNMENT WEBSITES THAT HAVE BEEN TAPPED INTO BY WIKI

    FORMER AUSTRALIAN LIVING ABROAD

  • 37. CIA assasin  |  December 10th, 2010 at 7:16 am

    MUST KILL “BANK GUY FROM BRUSSELS” IN ORDER TO ENSURE SUCCESS OF NEW WORLD ORDER. HE IS ON TO US!

  • 38. CensusLouie  |  December 10th, 2010 at 2:03 pm

    @29
    “I was of the opinion for a while that wikileaks was a CIA op but the more that comes out, the less and less I believe it to the point where now I’m fairly sure this is on the straight up. The danger now is that every intel and corporate espionage operator in the world will be seeking to use wikileaks to smear/shame/banktup opposing nations/actors/business rivals.”

    That’s the problem with anything good, isn’t it: eventually it’s co-opted by assholes.

  • 39. Wyse Guy  |  December 11th, 2010 at 4:22 am

    Oh my God; this one is for retards like Bank Guy fin Brussels.

    It just reminded me of him.

  • 40. Cernunnos  |  December 11th, 2010 at 2:56 pm

    @ 36

    uhhh…. wikileaks don’t “tap into” anything. People send them documents which the then comb through to write up summaries and to redact into that could harm living persons. That’s why Bradley Manning is on trial for leaking the info. And that’s why I’m going to sucker punch the next moron who says “durrrrr……why don’t these anti-Americans go after the real threats like North Korea….durrr hurr.”

  • 41. Cernunnos  |  December 11th, 2010 at 2:59 pm

    @ 14

    Thank you John Figler for falling right into my stereotype of the people who have no clue how wikileaks operates. I’m sure they’ll release something on the countries you mentioned AS SOON AS SOMEONE ACTUALLY SENDS THEM SOMETHING FROM THOSE COUNTRIES. They aren’t fucking spies or hackers. They don’t gather the info themselves.

  • 42. Cernunnos  |  December 11th, 2010 at 3:02 pm

    @ 33

    Which is hilarious because self-proclaimed “Objectivist” Jimmy Wales hates Wikileaks. How predictable that a Randian corporatocrat would have a problem with leaking classified documents.

  • 43. Arch Stanton  |  December 11th, 2010 at 4:44 pm

    “He’s figured out how to both talk and behave like a true, bona fide and intellectual anarchist in the tradition of Peter Kropotkin.”

    O rly? Then why aren’t Julian Assange wigs selling very well Mr. Smarty Pants?

  • 44. Nestor  |  December 12th, 2010 at 2:14 pm

    The bit about the daughter getting a sweetheart book deal made my ears prick up, because in Ireland Bertie Ahern’s daughter Cecilia also magically became a bestselling author overnight in similarly suspicious circumstances. I know a couple of people who are convinced it was a payoff and if there’s another example of it then it likely has become a standard method. I wonder if there are similar publishing players involved in the Cecilia Ahern success story…

  • 45. DAVID KORESH SECRET WILL SHOCK THE WORLD THEY HACKED FILES!  |  December 15th, 2010 at 10:02 am

    Wikki leaks this what david koresh a fame celeb name vernon howell got on usa in days before the usa attack on his religious faith compound he had brought from the usa government which they had see the founder owed taxes and david had the funds got it see he use be a band member for a star in hollywood they travel places also he was in few other bands he was like a c list star ya and he got caught up in bible so much,but he begin here voices when he went to israel and began to become a prophet,see the usa went on in him cause of his blackmail on them there lies and stuff they did they dont want you to know on they did not want it out ,the internet was dead like back then was barely 3 million users,they talked on the seige for 50 some days till the clintons gave janet reno orders to go in on them,there was children in there and a few jews and muslim i heard in there,the band leader said he glad he was not there that day,was a few that got out,the illumanti look them up on youtube be shocked whom in it you never be the same again,they are the ones the revelation in bible speak of and john the baptist said in year of two thousands and twelve yea vipers will end then christ states more on there end!this it god coming with massive armies from cosmo seen in pslams 2 and 72 also ezekiel vision he saw iphones on people and god armie was on earth some force was coming in on them-god has powers read old testment he can send fire out to turn things to ashes and people,he saves his elect as he did jacob,abraham,issac,david,noah and his family-others,god coming soon like anna on the new v on abc soon be billions of chariots to set god law in effect and rules and end to illumanti and secret societies soon and wars and weapons and crap-all illnesses nomore aids-stds and nomore atom smasher

  • 46. Zhu Bajie  |  December 20th, 2010 at 5:44 pm

    “Leaks of Chinese/Iranian/Israeli docs would serve me also. But you haven’t seen a single secret doc of the Chinese Govt yet, have you?”

    Check today’s Guardian. Chinese and Indian govt.s, both bribing Nepalese army officers to send Tibetan refugees back or on, respectively.

  • 47. Bobbi Pin  |  March 15th, 2011 at 1:55 pm

    Everyone should leave Rudd alone!

    He’s an honorable man and I am sure……wait, do they send future Presidents etc somewhere to have them evaluated BEFORE they run for the highest office in the land? BEFORE they are unleashed on the world?

    Yes, I think they gave Rudd a total work-up. If they hadn’t, he could have been a total DESPOT! Just thinking……..Oh, I could be wrong.

    This is what happened. They sent Rudd to a shrink (for the total mental work-up) and he totally BSed his way through it. Of course the shrink knew he was lying, but could it be the shrink was actually scared witless that this guy would come back to haunt her? She signed off on his mental health because of fear.

    I knew it!

    I have cracked the code. Meaning, I have figured Rudd out! Took long enough. To be fair, I don’t really follow him as he does make me a little nauseous. I need to keep on top of what he does. Out of fear, of course. If he’s within 500 miles of me, I better start worrying. Totally warranted.

    I have NEVER in my entire life feared someone as much. He’s probably reading this and saving all correspondence to prove……..Better not say. Fearful.

    Why fear someone just because they lie ALL THE TIME? I Think if you lie ALL THE TIME, you are capable of………..
    Logical? Ah, no. Must be more to the story.

    I do feel sorry for his wife. Being lied to ALL THE TIME is not fun. It’s demoralizing. She seems to put up with it. I wonder why? HMMMMM. Three guesses.

    Does he lie to his kids? Oh no. Lying to your spouse is one thing, but lying to your kids is another story completely.

    Ok, he’s only human. No he’s not.

    I made up the stuff about fearing Rudd. ??????????? Just trying to stay out of trouble.

    I wish Rudd would read this and try, try, try not to lie so much. It doesn’t pay to lie. It just comes back to haunt you later.

    Although, didn’t I read, you are a DEVOUT CHRISTIAN? Ah,,,,,,,lying and devout? Gee, I don’t get that one bit. Doesn’t jibe. Is it just me? Guess it is. I can count on one hand the # of times I have lied. You are programmed to lie, I am not.

    If I were to lie to Rudd, it would be justifiable in my mind. Plus, to lie to a liar is no biggie. I guess.

    Rudd, you missed your calling. Attorney! You would have been perfect! Attorney/Politician, what’s the difference?

    It’s OK, Rudd. You are what you are. Not my cup of tea.

    Rudd! I’ve got to follow you! It reinforces my feelings.

    I have NEVER had such deep, dark circles under my eyes.

    I am a glutton for punishment, obviously.

    I think you’ll always take care of #1. You!

    Bobbi


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