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This is fun viewing: watch Rep. Alan Grayson (D-FL) douse the Fed’s general counsel’s ass with Crisco then throw him into the frying pan and fire up the stove. M’m-m’m! Them’s some good grillin’s! Once in awhile, you can see how democracy can be used as a weapon, and Grayson has been getting better at holding the swine accountable, joining other heroes like Rep. Marcy Kaptur (D-OH) and Ron Paul (R-TX). I include Ron Paul only because he at least goes for the throat against the interests gang-raping this country, which makes him a convenient ally at this point, because if Paul actually ran this place like the libertarian paradise he intends, we’d all be pining for the salad days of 2008-9.

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  • 1. DrKiwano  |  September 28th, 2009 at 9:29 am

    The last 3 minutes were pretty good, but the first 2 were a bloody waste of his opportunity to ask questions. I mean stock prices are going to be different depending on whether the inflation rate is held to, say 4%, or 100% for a year) just like the price of everything else. Based on that, you could say that the Fed always manipulates stock prices as a side-effect of doing its job. Not that the Fed lawyer would actually come out and say that when he could piss away nearly half of Grayson’s question period playing rope-a-dope.

    Nice in principle, but Grayson’s still got to work on his game a little; I wanted to hear where that question about primary dealers was going.

  • 2. Alan Grayson kicks ass  |  September 28th, 2009 at 9:39 am

    Alan Grayson has been kicking ass for a long time. Check some of his vids on youtube, particularly when he grills Bernanke and the CEO of Citibank. Prior to his freshman term in the US Congress, he took on Iraq war profiteers as a lawyer. This guy is the real deal, just what this country needs.

  • 3. az  |  September 28th, 2009 at 2:29 pm

    Now wait a second, by being against Paul, are you saying that you do not want to live in a Thailand as that other article described it, except of 300 million sprawled coast to coast and ruled by the Free Market God and his representative on earth as whatever financiers and megalomaniacs are ‘elected’ to government offices, Ames?

  • 4. The thing I've been wondering since the first time I saw this clip:  |  September 28th, 2009 at 3:05 pm

    Is that thing on the general council’s face supposed to be a moustache? A harelip that somehow managed to grow hair? The mark of the beast?

    What IS it?

  • 5. kingkong  |  September 28th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    He comes off as a snide prick. The questioning is inept for the purposes of making any point and is simply obnoxious. I say this as someone who wants the Fed shut down.

  • 6. kingkong  |  September 28th, 2009 at 3:55 pm

    I like how with the anti-libertarian stuff it’s always spiteful innuendo. In any substantive debate on economics and politics against Ron Paul’s friends you people would come off looking like retarded eight year olds. By substantive I mean, you know, with data and clearly enunciated theories and history.

    How about a Tom Woods v. Mark Ames face-off on the role of government in creating social equality? Enough with the one liners and maudlin portraits of suffering. It’s clear you won’t address libertarians on their own terms (intellectual argument) because YOU CAN’T.

  • 7. klauposius  |  September 28th, 2009 at 4:12 pm

    No. I don’t think Grayson nailed down anything real. I think the beaurocrat played him like a pro. Grayson got played out for time. And at the end he makes the “this is not the end!” cry, which would be que the audience that we are at the bottom of Act 2, if it were a movie. But it is not. And this will quietly go away with a wimper.

  • 8. Quadrillion Dollar Man  |  September 28th, 2009 at 5:07 pm

    Ron Paul’s been fighting the gang-rapers for 30 years. He’s the one who gave the dems the idea to go after the Fed, otherwise they would just claim that gang-rape is acceptable in American culture.

    They don’t have enough imagination to protect Americans without Ron Paul.

  • 9. cal  |  September 28th, 2009 at 6:37 pm

    Does the Fed manipulate markets ?
    Answer: Yes

    Do primary dealers and firms like Goldman effectively front run ?

    Answer: Yes

    Where did the $1 trillion go ?

    Answer: To buy a bunch of shit assets to take them off the books of players like AIG, Goldman etc.

  • 10. Allen  |  September 28th, 2009 at 8:27 pm

    Kong: Oooh “retarded eight year olds” no less! That’s somewhere in between a retard of nine years and one of seven years, don’t-cha-know?

    The Exiled surely would be done in by thinkers of such voracity and with a cruel tool kit of precise rhetorical jabs like that, too! Ouch.

    But wouldn’t we all?

  • 11. jim  |  September 28th, 2009 at 11:04 pm

    “It’s clear you won’t address libertarians on their own terms (intellectual argument) because YOU CAN’T.”

    It’s increasingly clear that addressing libertarians on any terms whatsoever is a complete waste of time. Comparing your opponent to a retarded child & then bloviating about “intellectual argument” is par for the course. A system that’s been an abysmal failure every single time it’s ever been put into practise merits neither serious consideration nor respect from anybody bright enough to tie their own shoelaces.

    Libertarianism is to politics what the Moonies are to religion – perennially amusing but also potentially dangerous, because its zealots refuse to see the massive flaws in their own thinking.

  • 12. kingkong  |  September 29th, 2009 at 8:07 am

    > A system that’s been an abysmal failure every single time

    There we go again with the one liners based on thick ignorance. 1600s Pennsylvania was a libertarian society. It worked very well, with one of the highest standards of living in the world. Gold Rush era California was a libertarian society. Contrary to the picture painted in Western movies, it worked very well and had an extremely low crime rate.

    People like Ames and Taibbi won’t address libertarian argument in depth and detail because they can’t. Their understanding of history and markets is so much weaker they would look ridiculous in any exchange. All they can do is hazily allude to suffering in different periods of history and incorrectly attribute it to free markets. The ignorance would be painfully obvious in an exchange with someone like Tom Woods, for example.

  • 13. az  |  September 29th, 2009 at 12:20 pm

    So in conclusion, the requirements for a libertarian society are a) no private industry of any kind and/or b) a large amount of easily accessible natural resources that are very highly valued elsewhere.

  • 14. John  |  September 29th, 2009 at 12:50 pm

    Libertarian ideology in four words: Fuck you, got mine

  • 15. Graham  |  September 30th, 2009 at 8:48 am

    Libertarian ideology in four other words: Sublimated sexual submissive fetish.

    From Ayn Rand’s semi-explicit rape fantasies to kingkong’s schoolboy worship of Tom Woods. Maybe the libertarians would get behind socialized health care if we promised to include free access to dominatrixes?

    (Not that there’s any need to get the libertarians behind anything, since without the support of socially conservative Southerners and moderate-in-all-things Midwesterners, their constituency consists of a few dozen nerds in New York and Washington DC. But it would be fun.)

  • 16. kingkong  |  October 1st, 2009 at 6:46 am

    You continue to prove my point. People who oppose the free market cannot coherently explain why.

  • 17. LIExpressway  |  October 1st, 2009 at 9:01 am

    Libertarians are fucking retards!

    KingKong,there is nothing inherently wrong with a pure free market as a system. Everyone understands this concept.

    It’s just not sustainable in a society were large industrial corporations exist, and are considered individuals on a legal basis.

    The first part of the problem arises with this simple no brainer fact:
    No business transaction in a free market is ever an equal value for an equal value. Ever. Period. End of story.
    The pursuit of profit trumps every other consideration.

    Your either doing the fucking or getting fucked. Every transaction you make from getting cash at the ATM and buying a cup of coffee all the way up to purchasing a house.
    Most of the time when your being fucked you just don’t know it, cause its always followed by a Tom Brokaw smile with perfect white teeth and a wholesome white savior of the west handshake.
    This doesn’t just apply to money! It applies to labor, food ingredients, sanitation, environment and anything else involved in a specific transaction.

    We have already had the truly free market that Ayn Rand had yearned for, and it wasn’t a bunch fucking Hessians in PA. It was documented very eloquently in Upton Sinclair’s The Jungle. Jack London had his own take on it in The Iron Heel.

    I thank god for Teddy and our government for passing the pure food and drug act every single day. I still don’t

  • 18. The Social-est  |  October 6th, 2009 at 10:34 am

    Libertarians are fucked. Ron Paul wants to dismantle the FDA and replace it with private drug certification companies. Of course, motivated by profit, these certification companies will rush products for certification, and the only way to know that a certification company is unreliable is when people start to die off taking drugs that the company has certified.

    So, a bunch of people die because a certification company isn’t properly testing drugs, so we turn to a new certification company. This cycle continues indefinitely, or until the piles of dead bodies start to cause issues. I’m sure there’s a business opportunity there… maybe organ harvestation? The free market again provides a solution!

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