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eXile TV / May 5, 2009

Ames snarls for the cameras on a GritTV panel hosted by Laura Flanders, with guests Daphne Eviatar, Legal Correspondent for The Washington Independent, and Kate Clinton.

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  • 1. firewalkwithme  |  May 5th, 2009 at 12:25 pm

    Well done, Ames. Sad really that a no budget web talk show can put the major media players to shame so easily. Also, Flanders looked like she wanted to knock off a piece by the end of it.

  • 2. aleke  |  May 5th, 2009 at 3:39 pm

    Snarl baby snarl!

    I like how Mark looks down frequently when the others are droning, as if he’s suppressing himself. Reminds me of when I have to sit through something that I want to comment on but it would mean taking over the discourse to save it from the wretched, unfruitful (and uncontextualized) discussion at hand “impolitely.”

    Roundtable’s good, but why implicitly back the other power class that is, literally, consisting of the same people anyway? Specter is just the latest of his tribe to switch in these decades, and Obama is just as neoliberal as the rest of them.

  • 3. aleke  |  May 5th, 2009 at 3:43 pm

    Let me clear that up. My issue is not with the panel, it’s with the discourse of this country. I’m sure we can all agree with that. Suppose the starting point is to use different language in our day-to-day.

  • 4. Mas.Litio  |  May 5th, 2009 at 4:16 pm

    You wail on that Daphne chick?

  • 5. doctor k  |  May 5th, 2009 at 5:12 pm

    was that a cover of ‘expensive shit’ at the beginning

  • 6. matthew  |  May 5th, 2009 at 5:28 pm

    Ha, Laura’s the daughter of Michael Flanders – 50s Brit comic revue artist, known for funny songs about animals recited by kindergartners… I had his narration of Peter and the Wolf on LP when I was a kid.

    I thought Mark aquitted himself well here. His commentary was well put and well recieved.

  • 7. tom  |  May 6th, 2009 at 12:14 am

    I’m with you guys on the whole class war and taking down the plutocrats but what pisses me off about ‘the left’ is this whole notion of “hate speech” and “hate crimes”. It just seems so cowardly to put a gun to someone’s head for saying something you don’t like rather than actually arguing with them or just ridiculing them. And the idea that you would impose a harsher penalty on a murderer for thinking the wrong things when he committed the crime just seems Orwellian in the extreme.

    Anyway, that’s my rant. Take care and keep posting!

  • 8. mechagodzilla  |  May 6th, 2009 at 4:35 am

    Man, I really hate to see that there has to be meta-(meta-)reporting on the air, but discussions like this seem like they’re going to be more and more important in the future. People need to be really conscious of what is going on, not by quantity (as the discussion of the flooded 100 days coverage showed) but quality: people need to be sharper about detecting when they’re being fed bullshit.

    It’s just not going to get better unless we all get smarter about this.

  • 9. mclaughlin groupie  |  May 6th, 2009 at 2:39 pm

    ISSUE ONE! I ask you, Mark Ames. Pff. And I thought the trillion other panel discussion shows were worthless. Such a tired, idiotic paradigm. And what a surprise to discover that Quad City Thunder games ain’t much better, though that lady with the wacky goggles had the right idea. Why’d she take them off?

    In Argentina they put a clown right next to their Matt Lauer on the morning news who mocks the whole thing while the news guy is trying to be all serious. We need that kind of thing here. Full on fucking clowns, running around the table and honking their noses while Woodward is trying to talk on Washington Week. That would be awesome.

  • 10. jimmy james  |  May 6th, 2009 at 4:31 pm

    Nice going Ames. Loved that it was a panel of the girls and a playboy.com columnist. Did you get to hear about the sins of the patriarchy afterward?

  • 11. hydroplane  |  May 7th, 2009 at 3:34 pm

    Which one of those scary thugs was Ames?

  • 12. Mark  |  May 7th, 2009 at 5:39 pm

    Ames did very well. He didn’t even snarl. I got the sense that all those feminist women wanted his cock. I guess Playboy doesn’t offend them so much.

  • 13. rick  |  May 7th, 2009 at 7:31 pm

    I don’t know, interpersonally I’ve had some good relationships with lesbians. Once you take the stupid ideology out of it, lesbians could lead us into the future. They’re well-aware of fucked up everybody’s intuition is. Of all the loathsome people I’ve known, some of the few I still wish I knew are lesbians. They’re good people.

  • 14. Andrew  |  May 7th, 2009 at 8:28 pm

    Mark looks like Mel Gibson

  • 15. aleke  |  May 7th, 2009 at 9:21 pm

    I never thought I’d hear that lesbians will lead me into the future. In a land that speaks only with its eyes

    No language
    No dildos
    No fuckin laws

  • 16. Half-Breed  |  May 8th, 2009 at 1:01 pm

    what did Mark mutter after the “coke habbit comment” at about 14.00


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