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What You Should Hate / September 24, 2009
By Mark Ames

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This is the biggest shocker political story of the year that no one else seems to want to touch, but you should read it: Sibel Edmonds, the FBI whistleblower who was fired after she raised concerns about how deeply foreign interests (Turkish and Israeli primarily) had inserted themselves inside the FBI, manipulating and controlling American politics and the media. There’s a stunner of an interview with her in the current issue of the American Conservative, which our own Gary Brecher once wrote for, in which Edmonds names the Congressmen who were being bribed and blackmailed to serve Turkish interests. The ACLU called her “the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America” while numerous bigwigs from both sides of the aisle found her allegations both credible and explosive.

We find out that Jan Schakowsky, the liberal Democrat from Illinois, is a bisexual who was filmed by the Turks doing the scissors with a Turkish female agent in a Washington townhouse to use as blackmail and turn her…that sleazeball ex-Republican speaker Dennis Hastert was on the Turks’ payroll while in Congress, and has stayed there as their lobbyist in Washington post-retirement… that Richard Perle and Douglas Feith really are the traitor foreign agents we always suspected them of being, and that the New York Times has an editor on payroll of foreign spy agencies (Israeli and Turkish) to place opinion pieces. Just as we always suspected. Amazing shit.

And Scott Horton at Antiwar has a one hour show devoted to Edmonds, featuring the man who interviewed her for the story, former CIA agent Philip Giraldi. Download and listen to it.

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  • 1. Realist  |  September 24th, 2009 at 6:20 pm

    The colossal bribery in DC and placement of PsyOp pieces within the news outlets is an open secret. Sure, the Israelis do it, but so do the CIA and DOD crowd. American Prawda.

    Edmonds also provided information about the close ties between the intelligence community and Bin Laden up to 9/11, long after the USS Cole and Embassy bombings.

    Have fun with the homeland brigades…

  • 2. Zhu Bajie  |  September 24th, 2009 at 8:47 pm

    Who is surprised? Is it different from 100 years ago, when Mark Twain was writing?

  • 3. wYSeGuy  |  September 24th, 2009 at 9:58 pm

    Mark, you found out about the Sibel Edmonds story NOW? Bro, its been kicking around the internet since at least 2005. Four years too late dude. I guess it never got play ’cause the people it fingered were directly incharge.

    And I’m not surprised about Richard Perle and Douglas Feith. But Dennis Hastert??? HOLY F()#@K BATMAN!!!

    And Batman is a city in Turkey.

    And here is a story from the War Nerd, praising the Turks:

  • 4. rossiya  |  September 24th, 2009 at 10:19 pm

    MSM won’t touch this story because the money trail leads to directly to the Jesuits and their bankster buddies.

  • 5. Lester Ness  |  September 24th, 2009 at 10:54 pm

    Because it’s too likely to be true, as opposed to the comical conspiracy theories of Orly Taitz, ex-soviet dentist/lawyer/realestate agent.

  • 6. shlacker  |  September 25th, 2009 at 1:32 am

    DAMN she’s cute.

  • 7. wyseguy  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:55 am

    Mark, this story’s been kicking around the internet since 2005. It’s a wonder it’s actually gotten some real coverage now.

  • 8. TimRadioBoy  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:59 am

    The system has done a good job of making anyone who questions the “official investigation” of 9/11 as some sort of quack. What’s really a gem is the commission report. What a piece of horseshit. I can’t think of any honest court where their “evidence” would hold up. Ignoring HUGE gaps like Building 7’s collapse (not even mentioned), etc…you’ve probably all heard this before if you’re on this site. I just want answers. I can’t definitely point one way or the other until I get answers, but I hate this half-ass investigation work that’s been done. Let’s get somebody real in there and prove this thing once and for all.

  • 9. worksux  |  September 25th, 2009 at 4:31 am

    Wow she is hot! Kinda goth but thats ok. What do I have to do to get bribed! God I am sick of being lower middle class. I need to move up this corruption ladder everyone is always talking about.

  • 10. Seymour Butz  |  September 25th, 2009 at 7:33 am

    I think I know why, because just listen to that audio. What’s the story? Horton and Giraldi don’t seem to know. It’s like, “Deep State-Turkey-Espionage-Brent Scowcroft- Kissinger-Israel-blah blah blah.”

    Like, what are you alleging? Who did it? Listen to the the Antiwar Radio archives from even further back about Sibel Edmonds with Christopher Deliso, and the allegations are even more amorphous. Hours of talk, no smoking gun. I don’t doubt there’s espionage and corruption, but I’m skeptical Sibel Edmonds has the goods.

  • 11. twentyeight  |  September 25th, 2009 at 8:49 am

    She’s hot, which is why I no longer trust this story. Does she work for LaRouche?

  • 12. neo  |  September 25th, 2009 at 12:08 pm

    Gee I thought this was why NO ONE was covering it:

    Edmonds further details what she had briefly discussed on air in June, during an interview with the nationally syndicated Mike Malloy Show, in which she had said she was aware of the “intimate relationship with Bin Laden and the Taliban … all the way up to September 11,” 2001

  • 13. moot the moose  |  September 25th, 2009 at 12:11 pm

    Mark, to answer your (rhetorical) question, consider the readers’ comments above.
    There is the ‘who’s-hot-and-who’s-not’ brigade (6., 9., 11.), a contingent not necessarily shunned by eXiled. They only need more porn, the kind of which is optional.
    Then, there are the people who need a “smoking gun”, and badly (10.) Anything short of that won’t cut it. They don’t “doubt there’s espionage and corruption”, but it’s so fucking tedious to keep track of it! So let’s just skip it – the truly American instinct.
    Lastly, you Mark: as 3., 7., and 8. point out (maybe even 2., with a strange literary bent) you TRULY just heard of this now? Edgy, informed guy like yourself? If so, forgive me. But the story has really been around since the much-maligned 9/11 “truthers” very soon pointed out those major holes in the official story. Did you investigate those holes? Oh, you just found about them? May be a good commercial break filler on your next MSNBC appearance. Could gain some real followers.

  • 14. twentyeight  |  September 25th, 2009 at 1:38 pm

    @ no.13:

    I’d been following the Sibel Edmonds story since 2005. She held out a lot of tantalizing tidbits that she couldn’t reveal. She’s now revealed them, and they’re really juicy, but four years of waiting, I feel like a fish on a line–get it? Hot chick, steamy details, long wait? When I was single if I had to go through that I’d just sneak into the bathroom and text someone else.

    This sounds like a LaRouche job.

  • 15. Lord Satan  |  September 25th, 2009 at 2:00 pm

    I’ll go ahead and say it, although I admit I have no proof, the bitch is a honeypot and what exactly has she been doing to pay the bills in the years since leaving the FBI? Working for the FBI is my guess. Or maybe she’s just one of those types that can go around and write books and whatever the fuck she does and rich people pay her way through life. I don’t think she shops at Walmart. Head of the national whistle blowers association, degree in psychology, lots of other things make her smell like a pot o’ honey. What’s she do for a living?

    Something I’ve learned over the years is that when people are pushing bullshit, they mask it with thousands upon thousand of lines of babbling words. Take any Alex Jones conspiracy for instance, lots of words, always bullshit. You’d be surprised just how much information there is out there about Jeff Gannon being Johnny Gosch for instance.

    The truth is always pretty fucking simple. Spit it the fuck out and quit beating around the bush.

    As for pumping up her credibility by surrounding herself with ‘former’ spooks and pigs, I have to wonder, what is it about people that makes them mistrust the government so much and then they gush over a ‘former’ fucking pig. Ted Gunderson was former head of the L.A. FBI office, the douche sells every conceivable conspiracy theory known to man. Little green aliens, 9/11, Satan worshipping pedophiles in the whitehouse, you name it. These assholes are distracting and disruptive on purpose and this bitch is one of them. Maybe I’m wrong, but I doubt it.


  • 16. moot the moose  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:41 pm

    No offense intended. I did take your comments in, regarding diffuse statements that don’t materialize. I agree that such statements more often than not lead nowhere.
    I do think that Sibel does try to get away with the maximum allowed to her right now, while people like Mark try to pretend that they’ve just heard about it. Which is what they usually do. We need people like Mark to put the pressure on. Ironically, he pretends to not know why this story has not gone anywhere so far…

  • 17. Cody  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:46 pm

    I wonder if Judy Miller was Grossman’s contact at the New York Times.

  • 18. geo8rge  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:51 pm

    So what did the Turks get from all this espionaging? Compare with what Georgia got by ‘legally’ writing checks to lobbyists. Makes little sense to me. Of course it is possible the Turks did all this and got little or nothing. Was this about those silly congressional Armenian genocide rulings or laws or whatever they would be called? Cyprus? Kurdistan/PKK?

    The objective of all this is the missing element of an interesting scandal.

  • 19. moot the moose  |  September 25th, 2009 at 3:59 pm

    And please pull the LaRouche stuff. That’s the only thing right that the mainstream assholes do, and I wish they’d do it with a vengeance. Even if something is correct, the messenger matters, and LaRouche is a classic twink-fondler.

  • 20. porkers-at-the-trough  |  September 25th, 2009 at 4:11 pm

    Damn, Mark… you’re slipping!
    The REAL bombshell in Sibel Edmonds discussion, was Bush/Cheney/CIA types DISCUSSING with TURKEY, IN ADVANCE of 9-11, what the US would do regarding the Kurds… once we INVADED IRAQ. I believe it was Wolfowitz, Sibel was actually listening to his conversation with the Turk PM (?).
    Not only does this add yet more substance to the “Cheney knew” that hijackers were coming, and PURPOSELY knocked down ANY barriers – no matter how feeble – to their getting through so as to have his precious “NEW PEARL HARBOR” excuse to invade Iraq
    (remember, even a lousy PAPER ALERT, a ROUTINE FAA “General Traveler’s Advisory” would have made the hijacker’s task 1,000 times more difficult – just imagine 4 or 5 single Arab men getting on the same US airliner AFTER 9-11!) –
    – but, yet again, the Edmonds story highlights the GENOCIDAL TREACHERY of the Likudniks, who (like the Southern Right-Wing “bring back segregation, if not slavery,” neo-Confederates) don’t give a damn about human rights, democracy, freedom, or treaties – much less yesterday’s “no use to us today” allies like the Kurds, who have been BETRAYED by the “American foreign policy ‘experts'” (read, Likudnik Neo-Cons and Jesse Helms neo-Confederates) a half-dozen times in the past 3 or 4 decades, alone.
    The Neo-Con strangelhold on the American ‘news’ media is simply amazing to behold…. its like Bush (Sr.), Cheney, Rummy, Wolfo, and the whole Neo-Con/Likud/Bush/Cheney/Helms crew NEVER ARMED SADDAM during the 1980s Iran-Iraq war,
    or GAVE Saddam LICENSE to wipe out Kurds and Shiite rebels during his (Saddam’s) “Anfal” campaign after the Gulf-1 War, or Saddam’s anti-Kurds cleansing ops before Gulf-1 war.
    THAT sort of duplicitous, mass-murder treachery is what passes for “freedom” and “moral values” in Washington Neo-Con circles.
    Oh yeah – here’s explaining while we will never be rid of these anti-human parasites & vampires: there is just TOO MUCH MONEY to be EXTORTED out of fearful American taxpayers – billions upon TRILLIONS of dollars – by the “MORE WARS NOW, and FOREVER” Likudnik Neo-Cons –

  • 21. wengler  |  September 26th, 2009 at 8:20 pm

    I thought the two stories the come out of the Sibel Edmonds case were 1) the Turks were bribing Hastert to stall any Armenian genocide legislation and 2) Edmonds’ fellow translators were sympathetic to the suspected terrorists they were listening to.

    I would be a bit more suspicious of information coming out now unless it is specifically attached to the lifting of a gag order.

  • 22. The Turk  |  September 27th, 2009 at 6:05 am

    I figured as a Turk, I could give the Turkish persepective of the story. Sibel Edmonds is a star-wannabee. She knew that right after September 11th, the Sucker Americans would go for anything ala espionage-al qaida-Israel-etc. As a translator for FBI this put her in a position of pseudo credibility. The right wing conspiracy nuts have taken her line without questions and give this attention Whore what she wants.

    In 2 years if she will have 3 books and a movie deal. She is right up there with the long line of 9/11 capitalists.

  • 23. Necronomic Justice  |  September 27th, 2009 at 3:30 pm

    I think you all are missing the point.

    Ames only wrote this article for teh innuendo lulz.

    “Sibel Edmonds . . . ‘the most gagged person in the history of the United States of America'”

  • 24. Eren  |  September 27th, 2009 at 11:26 pm

    Ofcourse no one will mention the Armenian lobby and the Greek lobby, who have subverted American democracy far more effectively then any other lobby (except perhaps one). When the Turks catch on to the fact the American congress is basically just a method for advancing business interests, only then is it a crime.
    Besides which, Sibel Edmonds, like a lot of misguided and confused Turks, is just looking for attention. Remember the guy who shot the pope? His first words to the media after being detained were ‘I am Jesus Christ’.

  • 25. jim  |  September 28th, 2009 at 10:44 pm

    It’s interesting to note that people have been smearing Edmonds ever since her story broke on “60 Minutes” more than five years ago – she’s a plant, she doesn’t know what she’s talking about, she’s just in it for the money/fame – but the facts behind her story keep being borne out, again & again … & it’s pretty idiotic to whine about her not disclosing information that would result in an automatic indictment for her: the moment she gets busted, her credibiity in most peoples’ eyes becomes roughly nil – & all the more so when it gets spun as threatening the sacred cow of national security.

    Some of the people responsible for influence-peddling & selling nuclear secrets on the black-market ( as disclosed in the London Times story: ) are Democrats. Waxman promised he’d investigate her allegations, but then screwed her over once the Dems took Congress in 2006. Now Obama’s upholding the same State Secrets Privilege that Ashcroft used to put a gag-order on her back in 2003, no matter how damaging that decision is to real democracy or the nation itself. Now that’s REAL bipartisanship in action.

    She’s blacked out in the US mainstream because they know which side their bread is buttered on: they never have a shortage of less-sensitive sensationalist pap to sell, & this story won’t make them any friends in the political sphere, to put it mildly.

  • 26. Frank McG  |  September 29th, 2009 at 12:18 pm

    An article from a rag called American Conservative bringing out all the 9-11 Truthers.

    Yup. This seems credible.

  • 27. Jess  |  October 16th, 2009 at 12:28 pm

    Eren you’re pathetic. What on earth has “the Greek lobby” done to the USA? Pushed for lower tariffs on feta? And “the Armenian lobby”? Is Armenia even a country anymore? Very small potatoes, anyway.

    So when you say ridiculous shit like this, it’s obvious that your real concern is that genocide deal y’all had your fun with, and the fact that people won’t just decide to forget the whole thing. I mean, we can’t blame you for killing 1.5M; it was your ancestors. But when you insist it never happened, the whole of Turkdom looks kind of evil.

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