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Fatwah / November 16, 2008


Mark Ames, author of “The Cold War That Wasn’t” in The Nation, discusses the U.S. media’s framing of the August war in South Ossetia between Georgia and Russia, the attempt to portray Russia as the aggressor by accusing them of launching a first-strike cyber war despite the lack of any evidence, the alleged poisoning of Ukraine’s Victor Yushchenko and the current dispute between Yushchenko and Yulia Timoshenko over her reaction to the Georgia war, the poisoning of Alexander Litvinenko, NATO expansion into Eastern Europe, the precedent set by U.S. intervention in Kosovo, the danger of putting “defensive” missiles in Eastern Europe while the U.S. foreign policy establishment contemplates first strike capability, U.S. NED support for the Russian National Bolsheviks, the “shock therapy” robbery of Russian resources under Yeltsin’s autocracy in the 1990s and the consequences.

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  • 1. aleke  |  November 17th, 2008 at 3:10 pm

    Nice interview. Glad you guys decided to enable comments, too.

    You invited to the Nation’s cruise, Mark? As much as it hurts me to say it, I’d like to see you and John Dolan get into America’s incestuous news world if it insures the survival of the Exile.

  • 2. Tom  |  November 17th, 2008 at 9:34 pm

    I want to have Mark Ames’s baby!

    Actually, I’m a guy, so I can’t do that, but I still totally want to, you know!

  • 3. Raad  |  November 17th, 2008 at 10:06 pm


  • 4. james  |  November 19th, 2008 at 7:47 pm

    What a BS interview and BS perpective on Russia it’s just the main stream view lite.

    I will post another comment disputing your viewpoints except the Georgia conflict which is blatently obvious Georgia was the bad guy and was pre-planned with NATO, Ukraine, EU and the US.
    It wasn’t just some of the media that racheted up the pro-Georgian/anti-Russian rhetoric.
    Human Rights Watch is financed by George Soros the man who put the current president and the previous one into power in Georgia.

    In fact why don’t we examine how Russia became Communism in the first place.
    That it was an invasion financed, created and lead by Jews.
    Jewish sources themselves used to admit this pre-67 when the USSR stiffed the Arabs in the 67 war and broke off relations with Israel to keep good relations with Arab countries so they could sell them weapons.

    “The bolshevik Revolution in russia was the work of Jewish planning and Jewish dissatisfaction. Our Plan is to have a New world Order. what worked so wonderfully in Russia, is going to become Reality for the whole world.” — The American Hebrew Magazine, 10, Sept. 1920

  • 5. lena  |  November 19th, 2008 at 7:54 pm

    I feel the same with #2, and I am a girl (so I actually can, just need to ask Mark if he wants one with me…)

  • 6. DLV  |  November 19th, 2008 at 10:27 pm

    Just your typical left-wing bs… nothing to see (to listen to, that is) here

  • 7. Dave  |  November 19th, 2008 at 10:42 pm

    I feel sorry for him, at one time Ames seemed capable of so much more. What a waste.

  • 8. Pooting  |  November 20th, 2008 at 3:07 pm

    This interviewer is a typical paranoid Texas whacko…nice job staying focused, Ames.

    Didn’t you want to tell that yokel to shut the fuck up with his idiotic tangents more than a few times?

  • 9. wengler  |  November 21st, 2008 at 3:11 am was actually founded by a libertarian so it’s not surprising that it would have a libertarian/Ron Paulism type slant rather than a liberal left one.

  • 10. KoRny  |  November 21st, 2008 at 7:01 am

    Wow. Now I understand why comments are not opened up on most articles here. Some people…eessh.

    The point is that Russia was not the bad guy as the mass-media in the West wants us to believe. I understand Russia is not a good government for the most part, but what government is really? Why not take the facts as they are rather than mix, roll, and bake them into something they are clearly not. Not left-wing, right-wing, Libertarian, what-ever — just facts.

    Thanks Mark for the good article and interview. And since we are on the sub-topic of making babies…I gotta…umm…thing to do. bbl.

  • 11. Alexey Bogatiryov  |  April 1st, 2009 at 10:24 pm

    Mark, thank a million for providing a voice of reason in the sea of anti-Russian hatred that seemed all permeating last year!

    Still waiting for Obama’s new direction…

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